MASTER THREAD: 2019.40.50.x - Driving Visualization improvements, new voice commands, Camping Mode

[diezel_dave]

Still on week 20 maps....

Me too. Pretty outdated around me with all the construction going on.

 

[groovyd]

VeryGreen:

step 3 - perform integrity check of the image...

this 'is' a crc check of some sort. it might not be crc though most likely sha256 or something similar.

 

[mswlogo]

when its a bankA/bankB flash config, YES, YOU DO!

this is not arguable. I can tell you've never done this for a living. those of us who have, know what we're talking about.

Quit while you’re ahead.

 

[t-rizzle]

Thanks for doing that! So we can rule that out then. Do you have Android or Apple?

Edit: I'm blind. Saw you have an Apple phone up above. Now we just need someone with an Android phone to do the exact thing and confirm that it doesn't cause the crashing. Only thing pointing to special characters not being the cause is the few people saying they don't have any non-alphabetical characters in their contact list and they still have the resets. So maybe back to a number of contacts thing? But then again, ~50 contacts isn't really that many so that doesn't make sense. I give up. Haha.

I have 448 contacts saved

 

[linux-works]

step 3 - perform integrity check of the image...

this 'is' a crc check of some sort. it might not be crc though most likely sha256 or something similar.

pretty sure that all images are signed and encrypted and so, first step is to decrypt them, and if the files are corrupt, they won't decrypt.

 

[linux-works]

Surely the part where this happens involves a CRC or similar check?

3. perform integrity checking of the resultant image (obviously failure at an of the steps results in restart from 1)

It would be completely irresponsible for Tesla to design the car such that software is downloaded over the internet and then directly flashed to the components without checking to make sure no corruption or data loss occurred. My car always downloads new software pretty quickly then sits on 100% for like 10 minutes. I can only imagine that that is the point in the process where the download's integrity is being confirmed.

one thing that takes a long time is to do a secure erase of flash (which has an inherent TRIM nature to it). I don't know if tesla does that. if not, they SHOULD. even without, you usually format the target partition and 'mkfs' and that can take some time. you might mount source and target partitions and start a slow 'cpio' or even 'rsync'.

flashing over CAN can take a while. over ethernet is faster but not everything is on ethernet. if a flash fails, it has to start over from the start (usually with ECUs that's how it is). timeouts and retries can make things go even slower.

we don't get a log of what goes on during an install. would be fun to see but we can make guesses based on what other auto makers do and have done.

 

[Candleflame]

I don't mind the brisk acceleration but the jerkiness of it annoys me. It feels like when my grandpa is driving. Floor it, let off, floor it, let off, and so on. He drives like the accelerator pedal is an on/off switch.

agreed.

 

[Frunkenstein]

My phone contact list has # and @ in several contacts and my phone is an Android based one. Some times I can toggle back and forth with no issues but not usually more than like 3 toggles. More often though, it crashes on the first time. So far, this is what I know: Android and Apple phones have had the crashing but not everyone has it. I have not seen a report of an Android phone without # or @ in the contact list causing the crashes. Yours is the first Apple phone with "special characters" in the contact list and since it isn't crashing, I guess we can rule that out. The only other thing that I can think of left is that it is caused by an android phone with special characters in the contact list. Once someone reports that that works okay also, then I can't think of any other obvious cause.

As I mentioned earlier, I don't have special characters in my contacts, I'm on Android, and it crashes when sorting. Probably around 150-200 contacts.

 

[Frunkenstein]

Weird thing happened today during messaging. I was texting back and forth with my sister, and in between messages, a random message popped up on screen from my old boss back from April 2019!!!??? I had to do a message search as it wasn't showing up as a new message and discovered the date.

Fun stuff.

 

[mswlogo]

step 3 - perform integrity check of the image...

this 'is' a crc check of some sort. it might not be crc though most likely sha256 or something similar.

He’s probably to young to know that when folks say CRC, checksum etc. they use the term loosely and mean “image integrity check”.

 

[t-rizzle]

Question about playing music from phone over BT. I typically listen to Slacker in my Model 3 but I've found a good station on Pandora that I have been listening to lately and put it on today. I tried skipping over a song using the steering wheel and then the screen on the skip arrow but neither worked. Again I rarely listen to music over BT so maybe I've never noticed the two or three times I did use BT but wondering if this normal behavior or an issue? Sorry if this isn't related to this thread. Thank you.

 

[diezel_dave]

As I mentioned earlier, I don't have special characters in my contacts, I'm on Android, and it crashes when sorting. Probably around 150-200 contacts.

Then yeah... I have no idea what the causal factor is for this one. Seems entirely random to me.

 

[Frunkenstein]

Then yeah... I have no idea what the causal factor is for this one. Seems entirely random to me.

Agree. It's definitely got some weird things going on. This is good though. Glad we're all trying to pinpoint the problem.

 

[jordanair45]

Voice commands finally work for me.

told my car to “set temp to 70 degrees”. It understood it. Displayed what I said on the screen 100%. But set my climate to lo instead.

big improvement though. Before my microphone would pick up no voice input at all.

taking too long though. I’m already used to not using any voice commands at all. I forget it’s there

 

[Vanteer]

Odd. Are you on HW3?

Yes, as shown in my sig. 2020 Picked up 12/27/19.

 

[linux-works]

"my butt is cold"

works. seat heater comes on for driver.

TOO FUNNY!

 

[scottf200]

"my butt is cold" works. seat heater comes on for driver. TOO FUNNY!

Crowd sourced google sheet and phone 'app' list: V10.2 Tesla Voice Commands

 

[linux-works]

if you say 'divide by zero' the car vanishes.

don't try that. please.

 

[iamroy]

Weird thing happened today during messaging. I was texting back and forth with my sister, and in between messages, a random message popped up on screen from my old boss back from April 2019!!!??? I had to do a message search as it wasn't showing up as a new message and discovered the date.

Fun stuff.

I've had that happen a few times. Not sure why they're randomly triggering.

 

[VQTRVA]

Crowd sourced google sheet and phone 'app' list: V10.2 Tesla Voice Commands

Thanks for this.
Pretty impressed Tesla appears to have mastered natural language voice commands very quickly.