Charging will get the battery to about 22C
Not when charging as slow as he is...
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Charging will get the battery to about 22C
I would schedule it to warm before the drive. 55 is somewhat cold and def not enough for fast supercharging. Charging will get the battery to about 22C and then while driving to supercharging will heat it up to about 30C+
No, you can't get the car "plenty warm" while driving, not in the US at least. If you drive at 70mph you might be able to keep the battery at about 25C-30C while driving, but if you stop it will cool down very fast.out...so it should be plenty warm from highway driving I assume? It’s 155 miles each way from where I am in Portland to Sisters
Is he charging with 1kW? Then I will not schedule anything as I doubt you can get the car to full overnight, you gotta be at about 80+% when you start.Not when charging as slow as he is...
No, you can't get the car "plenty warm" while driving, not in the US at least. If you drive at 70mph you might be able to keep the battery at about 25C-30C while driving, but if you stop it will cool down very fast.
310 miles at what speed? Anything above constant 65mph will probably not cut it. I guess if you drive at 60 you might do the 310 miles with 1% or so left. Provided you got the Panasonic and not LG battery
Is he charging with 1kW? Then I will not schedule anything as I doubt you can get the car to full overnight, you gotta be at about 80+% when you start.
Hey guys, for those who upgraded to a 2021 model 3 from an older model 3 version, can you answer some (or all) of my questions below, please? Thank you.
1. How quieter is the 2021 version (with double-pane windows) inside the cabin compared to 2020 and earlier models?
2. Does the new heat pump make the car more efficient in winter, by heating up the batteries? Or is it just for more efficient cabin heating? Not clear from what I've read.
3. Is the 353 new range real, or what exactly changed? Couldn't tell by the myriad of confusing comments on that. And talking about range, does anybody know how much less range you get if you travel at 85 mph (TX)?
That's it for now. Thank you.
JC
That was quick. Thank you very much . So 250 miles at best. And I assume less if anything higher, and using either heat or A/C, which is almost a given where I live (40F now. In the 100s in summer). By the way, which uses more juice on the model 3: A/C or heat? Curious about that. Thank you again. Guess for #2 alone it's worth buying the 2021. Disappointed #1 is not better. Weird. Take care.1. Not really noticeable
2. Both
3. 353 is EPA range. Efficiency at 85 mph maybe 70% of EPA
Looking for a 2021 Model 3 for my wife, which would be our first EV. I'm uncertain it's time for an EV for us yet, since we travel at around 85 mph here in TX (80 speed limit), and don't know if even the LR has enough range to avoid stopping like a shuttle. We travel from El Paso to Austin often (600 miles), and sometimes at 90/95 (following traffic), and typically only stop twice (Fort Stockton and Fredericksburg). We're willing to stop longer, but if the higher speeds decrease range too much, and we'd have to stop for 2 hours, it's not going to cut it, since it's already a long day trip as it is (9 hrs with normal traffic). Curious if there's a way to input your estimated average speed to re-calculate range on the car's computer. Otherwise, it's not going to be accurate, is it? The good news is there're 4 superchargers on the way, so at least we'd make it there. Ha ha.
Thank you very much. It looks great, but for some reason, I couldn't get it to work; it said it couldn't calculate my route (I clicked on 'report the error'). It might require to subscribe or something. I used 115% of the speed limit, and 100% charge. There were other parameters I didn't understand, so left them alone. Oh, and it was showing who knows where, but no way to zoom the thing out to go over the US. Thanks anyway.Try playing around with A Better Routeplanner. You can set the “reference speed” to a value above 100% to account for driving above the speed limit.
Well I’m not going to supercharge until I’m on my way back home, not on the way out...
It’s 155 miles each way from where I am in Portland to Sisters, so hopefully it has the range to make it all the way back (in which case I’ll stop in Tigard or Beaverton just so I can check the supercharging rate for the first time. Or maybe even one of the Vancouver chargers if I somehow have a bunch of range left, but I’m not hopeful I’ll make it quite that far.)
Looking for a 2021 Model 3 for my wife, which would be our first EV. I'm uncertain it's time for an EV for us yet, since we travel at around 85 mph here in TX (80 speed limit), and don't know if even the LR has enough range to avoid stopping like a shuttle. We travel from El Paso to Austin often (600 miles), and sometimes at 90/95 (following traffic), and typically only stop twice (Fort Stockton and Fredericksburg). We're willing to stop longer, but if the higher speeds decrease range too much, and we'd have to stop for 2 hours, it's not going to cut it, since it's already a long day trip as it is (9 hrs with normal traffic). Curious if there's a way to input your estimated average speed to re-calculate range on the car's computer. Otherwise, it's not going to be accurate, is it? The good news is there're 4 superchargers on the way, so at least we'd make it there. Ha ha.
Is the 353 new range real, or what exactly changed?
Have you run this past ABRP? Maybe you could make it both ways, if you drove very slowly, and drafted aggressively on I-5, but 310 miles round trip would really be pushing it. Especially given it will be cold, likely raining, and possibly windy. Cold air is thick compared to warm air.
You should expect a ballpark of 250 miles of freeway driving out of your vehicle, starting from 100%, in general. This is a very rough rule of thumb, though, and in some cases could be optimistic. It depends on so many factors it's hard to assign a number with any meaning. I'm very happy in summer in optimal conditions if I can go 230 miles from 100% in my 2018 Performance, on the freeway. That's a wonderful result.
When you do this, and get to 100%, can you take two pictures in quick succession (ideally, only when the car says "charging complete" - not while it is in the process of charging)?
Well, it does heat up the battery, but not nearly fast enough. And with the new heat pump as you said, it might use some of it to heat the cabin. You will still have somewhat good temperatures when you arrive doing it like that, but the car will still try to heat up the battery to about 45-50C when you start charging.thought just having a supercharger as a destination in the nav heated it for charging, or do I need to do both that and drive 70+ mph to get to an optimal battery temperature? I can always speed up when I’m 20 - 30 miles out from a supercharger.
Is it of any use for cell balancing leaving at 100% - charge complete, for some time? In case, how long?
There's anything else (or parameters) you want to me get a reading/picture from?
P.S. If you can clarify if it does exist a way, other than the small trip screen that resets at every car ignition (rather than the stated "from last recharge), for resetting the consumption and kms at a given charge and get the mileage and distance at the next recharge, please let me know, i'm still confused about it.
I also just moved to OR so I’m still getting familiar with the weather.
Yeah, just found out, there were no signs that scrolling would give you other screens.... silly me...There are a few trip meters you can scroll down to in that card..."since x:xx time", "since last charge", and then there are two trip meters (can label them, I label one "lifetime"). However, these meters don't count any use when you're in park, so they're not that useful for tracking your true available pack energy, or even your lifetime energy use.
Do you mean to extrapolate the total range possible using the effective consuption shown by the trip meter? It does apply also to the values given by the App Energy?The only confusing part of the trip meter is that you have to do 4.5% better than the efficiency you think you need to do, to get "km per rated km" rolloff of the rated km. For example, in my car, I need to get about 230-234Wh/mi, rather than the charging constant of 245Wh/mi. This is because of the 4.5% buffer, FWIW.
As far as we can tell, at the current time, you're not getting more energy, unless you get the Performance. If you wait until next year sometime, you might get more energy even with the AWD (range could go to 370 rated miles), as the denser cells are more readily available.View attachment 614637