Unless it broke something that now has to be fixed. Fairly common in software.
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Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences
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EVNow
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Pretty common to have a bad bug creep into a release (someone checked in the wrong code / didn't checkin the latest / last minute bug fix created some other issue ). With neural networks its even more difficult to predict.
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True, although unless that latest check-in is super critical, you always have the option of reverting it.
I noted at the shareholder event there was a question on the FSD release that also asked if this release would be single stack Elon took a beat, batted that part of the question away as 'inside baseball', then went on to confirm Friday release. That makes me doubtful about single stack in this release. He could have easily said 'Yes'.
EVNow
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Well, either way - another build and have to run another test cycle .... a definite delay.
True. And I realize i’m likely massively oversimplifying it. I come from the dino age of procedural programming….
EVNow
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Well - so do I. Infact I've done assembly programming where we had to burn the release to an EEPROM - test it on the device and if something was wrong, erase the EEPROM and start over.
EPROM SHME-PROM. I was the KING of the 029 Keypunch machine<g>
graduated to 6502 assembler then 'C' on an ATARI 800 before the PC came out. Moonlighted writing DLLs for big corps in the late 80s early 90s before starting my own little comp (mostly sql server and java by then)
Oh, and I've actually seen memory. Little beads on this cross wire form(?)
rxlawdude
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Paper tape punch on KSR-33 Teletype. No storage on the timeshare systems that donated cpu time to my high school, so I wrote a program and then dumped it onto paper tape. Acoustic 110 baud modem.
But it inspired me to become interested in computers and programming, leading ultimately to me being a senior (clinical) applications analyst. True story, though: when I started at UCLA (zoology major), I thought I'd take some programming courses. Then I found out you would create your program on Hollerith cards and hand the stack to the High Priest of the computer. Results in the form of a printout in 24 hours.
Since I was raised in real-time processing, I never took a computer course as an undergrad. When I got to pharmacy school, SC had a brand new computer lab with CRT terminals and a slick 300 baud IBM terminal. Taught myself PL/I and created some programs to help fellow students analyze their "unknowns" (assignment was to use titration to then calculate concentration) in lab. Program was called TITRAT because six characters were all that were available for filenames. Most subsequent computer work was creating small clinical programs for hospital pharmacies, and ultimately on workflow design and configuration of enterprise electronic health record systems.
TMI, but the FSD messages are getting repetitive.
Yes fine. They only found a bug at 1am perhaps, or gave up and notified Elon to call it off. All very possible. If your customers are waiting, you tighten your schedule so you finish in time to do QC checks, or you don't keep giving out unrealistic schedules. Who likes à string of broken promises.
I was going to say, "Circular"... I guess if there is no new information, or news, we rehash the same 'ol shite - over and over again!
True. Had FSD delivered, this thread would be full of people's driving experiences with it right now.... Guess we have to talk about something here, until it arrives! How's the weather? Storms are starting to rolling here at the WA coast!
rxlawdude
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Sunny and 72 in The OC.True. Had FSD delivered, this thread would be full of people's driving experiences with it right now.... Guess we have to talk about something here, until it arrives! How's the weather? Storms are starting to rolling here at the WA coast!
Yeah its really dark and gloomy over here in New EnglandTrue. Had FSD delivered, this thread would be full of people's driving experiences with it right now.... Guess we have to talk about something here, until it arrives! How's the weather? Storms are starting to rolling here at the WA coast!
EVNow
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When you do releases every 2 weeks, there isn’t much of “tighten your schedule” possible.
My guess after listening to their AI day is that they have a test suit that runs in their simulation environment. They probably finish all the checkins in the evening of Friday - make the build and start the simulation test. Go and have dinner - come back and check the results. Then they have a go/no-go call where they make the decision.
No-Go is always a painful decision. Apart from everyone blaming them for the delay - they have to work over the weekend to get a better build for a quick release. Much more difficult than whining all weekend on TMC.
Especially when it could mean the difference between losing lives or not
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My bad. I should follow Elon on Twitter
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