MASTER THREAD: Aftermarket Wheels on Model 3

[pdx_m3s]

Question about wheel spacers:

I just finished putting 3mm spacers on the rear wheels after getting new aftermarket wheels: 19x9 et35.

I counted how many full turns I can get, and including torquing it down with the torque wrench, I managed about 5 and a half. I'm assuming this isn't safe, correct?

I checked how many full turns I can without the spacers and it was at least 8.

I agree this isn't ideal. I was always told the minimum is 7. It's possible your aftermarket wheels have a thicker mounting hub (thickness between conical seat and wheel mounting surface), which inherently reduces the number of "turns" even without spacers.

 

[kbecks13]

I counted how many full turns I can get, and including torquing it down with the torque wrench, I managed about 5 and a half. I'm assuming this isn't safe, correct?

Check this out, generally you measure thread protrusion but if not possible with your lug nuts then you can take some measurements and do math to get the same rough results

Minimum Threads Protruding Beyond Nut | Engineers Edge | www.engineersedge.com

 

[superflyrolla]

Following for other's thoughts. I've always been told thread engagement should equal stud diameter. Model 3 has M14 x 1.5 studs, so that means you want 9.33 turns. Your 3mm spacers should subtract 2 turns. The stock wheels don't provide that much engagement so Tesla engineering isn't following that guideline.

 

[P-Lo801]

Check this out, generally you measure thread protrusion but if not possible with your lug nuts then you can take some measurements and do math to get the same rough results

Minimum Threads Protruding Beyond Nut | Engineers Edge | www.engineersedge.com

Thanks for this, but I don't quite understand how to do this math based on the length of my lug nut. Could you clarify?

 

[kbecks13]

Thanks for this, but I don't quite understand how to do this math based on the length of my lug nut. Could you clarify?

If the lug nut is covered, you should use what @superflyrolla mentioned (thread engagement at least equal to fastener diameter). You can measure that by number of turns or measure the exposed threads before installing the lug nut (though the nut likely has a small amount of distance from the mating face to start of female threads).

If the lug nut is open, just get at least 1-2 threads of protrusion and it's fine.

 

[P-Lo801]

Following for other's thoughts. I've always been told thread engagement should equal stud diameter. Model 3 has M14 x 1.5 studs, so that means you want 9.33 turns. Your 3mm spacers should subtract 2 turns. The stock wheels don't provide that much engagement so Tesla engineering isn't following that guideline.

Do you mean that even the OEM wheels don't have enough thread engagement to get 9 full turns? If so, how many did you count? I never counted mine.

 

[Tsportline]

Pearl White Model 3 with Gloss Black 20" Falcon Flow Forged Wheels and Gloss Black Carbon Fiber Trunk Wing

• Size: 20x8.5" Front, 20x10" Rear
• Offset: 20x8.5": +35 Front, 20x10": +40 Rear
• Bolt Pattern (PCD): 5x114.3
• Weight: 20x8.5": 25.25 lbs Front, 20x10": 25.65 lbs Rear
• Load Rating: 750 kg/1,653 lbs
• Tire Size: 20x8.5": 235/35-20 Front, 20x10": 275/30-20 Rear

 

[ULEWZ]

A question to those with aftermarket wheels. I just received my Stance wheels and they were not machined for the performance hubs even though the salesman put that on the invoice. They offered to send me 3 mm hub spacers or have them shipped back and they will have them properly machined. So, obviously the spacers are way easier, but is there a downside to using them? Should I just drive down to Santa Fe springs and have them remachined properly and have them sent back?
Thanks for your insite.

 

[2021 M3P]

A question to those with aftermarket wheels. I just received my Stance wheels and they were not machined for the performance hubs even though the salesman put that on the invoice. They offered to send me 3 mm hub spacers or have them shipped back and they will have them properly machined. So, obviously the spacers are way easier, but is there a downside to using them? Should I just drive down to Santa Fe springs and have them remachined properly and have them sent back?
Thanks for your insite.

No spacer is better than a spacer. If it were me I'd have them re-done.

 

[VOLT-ron]

Many thanks to Jamie @SignatureWheel for answering all my questions/concerns. Just got the wheels today and they absolutely did not disappoint!

Signature SV602 in Gloss Black
20x9.5 square fitment
30 offset front / 23 offset rear for flush look
255/35 Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Unplugged Performance moderate springs

 

[Noodles]

Can anyone recommend some good light weight 18?

 

[P-Lo801]

Can anyone recommend some good light weight 18?

You'll need to specify what your objectives are and at what budget. There are flow formed versus forged wheels, and the difference in price can go from 1.5k to 3k+.

Are you planning to track them, or is it so you can keep your range as much as possible?

 

[Jimrod]

Can anyone recommend some good light weight 18?

I ordered some Titan 7 T-S5’s in 18” from Evasive Motorsports last week. I researched around and settled on those on balance of all factors (no spacers needed, good looks etc). I was supposed to receive tracking info a week ago and despite numerous follow-up emails it’s been radio silence since then. Hopefully it all works out and I’ll share pictures when that happens. Tony did seem busy but no updates in over a week is starting to annoy me - especially as I need the shipping details for my customs broker. Anyone had trouble with Evasive before?

 

[JKB8]

Has anyone running the Brixton RF7 & Performance Model set up run into fitment issues with front or rear wheels? Did all wheels fit flush out of the box? I ran into a situation where the front two wheels were not flush when mounted due to an apparent machining error. Install shop had to cut small piece that was blocking fronts from being properly mounted. All good now but I'm not going to lie, I'm a bit sketched out by the whole process. Initially, the wheels were wobbly, seemingly the result of a machining/manufacturing error. Will contact Brixton directly though warranty on them is probably voided since the shop had to cut small piece that was blocking them from mounting properly with the Performance model's stepped hub ring. Curious if anyone else has seen or heard of this.

 

[Face_Disguise]

Pearl White Model 3 with Gloss Black 20" Falcon Flow Forged Wheels and Gloss Black Carbon Fiber Trunk Wing

• Size: 20x8.5" Front, 20x10" Rear
• Offset: 20x8.5": +35 Front, 20x10": +40 Rear
• Bolt Pattern (PCD): 5x114.3
• Weight: 20x8.5": 25.25 lbs Front, 20x10": 25.65 lbs Rear
• Load Rating: 750 kg/1,653 lbs
• Tire Size: 20x8.5": 235/35-20 Front, 20x10": 275/30-20 Rear

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Looks great! Are the mirror caps vinyl-wrapped or did you put caps on them?

 

[JKB8]

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19x9.5
Staggered offset 35/28
Michelin PS4S
Lowered on MPP hybrid coil overs

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Unplugged Performance Front Lip spoiler? If so, is that the unpainted version?

 

[JKB8]

Just an update as I got the car lowered on MPP Comfort Coilovers...glad to have closed the gap.
Wheels: 20x8.5 ET35 and 20x10 ET40 TItan7 T-S5 in Technica Bronze finish.
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Perfect. How much lower did you go? Equal amount front and back?

 

[Noodles]

Just an update as I got the car lowered on MPP Comfort Coilovers...glad to have closed the gap.
Wheels: 20x8.5 ET35 and 20x10 ET40 TItan7 T-S5 in Technica Bronze finish.
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you just did what I was thinking about doing - maybe not MMP

 

[Tsportline]

Looks great! Are the mirror caps vinyl-wrapped or did you put caps on them?

Customer had us wrap in gloss black vinyl.

 

[holmgang]

How many companies are left that do their own manufacturing, and are actually certified by VIA and/or TÜV?

As far as I know it is BBS (currently in German version of Chapter 11 bankruptcy), RAYS and all/most of their sub-brands, Enkei? OZ?

How many of them have Tesla specific fitting?

Any of them are manufactured in Japan or atleast Taiwan?

I like the idea of a transparent established company with history, address, and production in more reputable places, as opposed to overnight businesses using subcontracted manufacturing with just an email presence and not more details