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MASTER THREAD: Moisture condensation in taillights, fog lights, etc

p1l0t3

Member
Mar 5, 2016
120
39
Quebec, QC, Canada
I have some condensation when going out from car wash.
The issue I have is that even the "normal" fog is freezing within the taillight (front and back).
Next time, I will take pictures and ask for SC.
 

PNWLeccy

Member
Jul 11, 2019
846
677
Seattle
View attachment 503063 View attachment 503064 I actually noticed this today when cleaning the front of my car. There seems to be some condensation residue INSIDE of the headlights that resulted from condensation building up and then drying inside of the housing. I was scrubbing away at it before realizing it was on the inside of the light.

Do you think this would get Tesla to replace my headlights as it is pretty unsightly and annoying now that I’ve noticed it and have no way to “clean” that internal moisture residue.
After much back and forth with SC after I scheduled my appointment re: headlights with streaks/residue in housing, they finally agreed to replace both headlights with new ones. Confirmed that they do not have the same sort of residue inside.
 

WilliamG

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Apr 20, 2019
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Seattle, WA
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Just to show you all how common this issue is, I’m in London right now and wandering around my neighborhood there I took a few photos of cars with fogging in the tail lights.

Behold, Toyota Prius, Vauxhall Crossland X, and Aston Martin DB9. These are all on my road, and all have the issue. Oh, and a Model 3 for good measure!
 

nowtleft

Member
Apr 16, 2017
295
87
Uk
My P85 had lights replaced and new ones filled quickly.
New PM3 has condensation in already.
Tesla make great tech but *sugar* seals. Get used to it and see the funny side!
 

Jones0812

Member
Oct 12, 2019
40
8
Boston
Only a month old...one of my foglights on my 3. Need to contact them to swap it out. Everything else seems fine
 

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nimbuzz

Member
Feb 2, 2020
14
10
Gualala, CA
There is a tiny pin hole in the lens that allow moisture vented out. Mine rear lens got replaced one with a pin hole on driver rear side and the passenger side had a pin hole already and that did not get condensation.

--Could you please check with a pin and see if it is an open hole into the entire light housing? There is talk here that there are 'Two skins' = an inner and outer and I'm wondering if the hole goes through both or just the outer. If it's both I'll drill a tiny hole and see what happens.
 

nimbuzz

Member
Feb 2, 2020
14
10
Gualala, CA
After reading all 11 pages here is my conclusion; (drum roll) Other cars do do it too but it is common on Tesla and other hitech cars like new Mercedes that have LED lights. Theory is that most cars can dry out any condensation with the heat from the bulbs but LEDs don't generate enough heat. These lights have vents to let out warmth and varying pressure like airplane windows but this lets in moisture as well.

I'm going to go with TLLMRRJ 's remedy to silicone the seams and ajp558 who dried his out first.

Many peeps here are disappointed that a 50--$100K car would have such an issue (as am I) One poster said "get over it and have a sense of humor about it."
True Story --> My grandfather had a Model A Ford and it was touch & go if his tires would make it from Cleveland to Milwaukee on the gravel roads so he sewed an extra layer of rubber around the tires. Before he got to Cincinnati a tire blew up cuz the extra layer wouldn't let the tires cool so they over heated = live & learn! He was laughing as he told me (a wee fella) the story--he didn't even post anything on the Ford Forums :)
 

roblab

Active Member
Jul 15, 2008
3,341
2,397
Angwin (Napa Valley) CA
I've had moisture in various headlight/tail light lenses on my Teslas, and I always just figured that the plastic wouldn't rust nor would the moisture affect the amount or direction of the beam. Therefore, I never give it a thought. And they work just fine that way. It seems silly to have to have the Tesla Rangers come out to replace a headlight just because there's a little condensation in it. Doesn't hurt a thing.
 
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Durzel

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Jul 17, 2019
2,639
1,665
Bath, UK
I’ve had two (outside) units replaced under warranty. The guy who fitted them said that they are a new design, and that he hasn’t been called out to re-replace any of the new ones he has fitted, which implies to me that something was wrong or unreliable with the old design
 

MarsOrBust

Member
Sep 25, 2020
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245
Kepler-22b
Use Wrap tape that matches car color and it will do the same thing with a cleaner finish than silicone. Either way problem solved. Tesla really should fix the seals on these lights from the factory they are sub par. However like was said, pick your battles, this one you can work around at least.
 

blizza87

Member
Aug 10, 2020
31
45
Philadelphia
Scheduled Tesla Mobile service to replace my right tail light due to moisture build up and condensation after a rainy day which could last for days before clearing up. Took about 2 weeks for an available service date, but had an excellent experience with them today. Showed up on time. Tail light was replaced within 10 minutes, if that. Cost was entirely covered by warranty. There has to be “beading” of the water droplets within the tail light housing for it to qualify for replacement under the warranty. I included pictures of both the right (with condensation) and left (without) tail lights in the initial service request which satisfied this requirement. First experience with Tesla Mobile Service and it was awesome!
 

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