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Range Loss Over Time, What Can Be Expected, Efficiency, How to Maintain Battery Health
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Rothgarr
Active Member
280 lifetime on my LR AWD (10k+ miles). Admittedly, I do beat the crap out of it...
But I have solar so charging costs me nothing so I never watch my Wh/mi
But I have solar so charging costs me nothing so I never watch my Wh/mi
jkirkwood001
Active Member
I have the exact same config as you, @jlg32281 , but I live in Ottawa, Canada - so two cold winters take ~40% range off in cold weather. My average has been 323 wh / mile (201 wh / km) over 32,000 miles. I've also driven a 7,800 mile trip from Ottawa, through Texas to Monterrey Mexico, up to California and back which I did at 278 wh/m.
Two M3's in my house:
2018 LR RWD: 47k miles, lifetime average 209 wh/mi
2018 MR RWD: 34k miles, lifetime average 198 wh/mi
Both are 18" wheels with Aeros
Live in CT. We both drive mix of highway and two lane roads, and very conservatively (unless showing off for friends). Wife uses the climate (mostly AC) more than I do.
2018 LR RWD: 47k miles, lifetime average 209 wh/mi
2018 MR RWD: 34k miles, lifetime average 198 wh/mi
Both are 18" wheels with Aeros
Live in CT. We both drive mix of highway and two lane roads, and very conservatively (unless showing off for friends). Wife uses the climate (mostly AC) more than I do.
Hi I am new to the forum and I have just ordered a new Tesla Model 3.
I have a 220V 14-50 charger installed in my home.
I have a universal charger available to me at work (free).
My normal daily drive is about 20 miles roundtrip to and from work.
Just in preparation, I wanted tips on how to charge my Model 3, so that I preserve range throughout the years and preserve battery life.
I have read the Tesla website where it says to charge with low voltage daily and stay between 10-90% charge.
Is 220V considered to high then in this scenario?
And is someone able to provide tips on how to maintain my battery life and range?
I am one of those people that likes to research things to the death so that I live in the most optimal way
Thank you for reading. Cheers
I have a 220V 14-50 charger installed in my home.
I have a universal charger available to me at work (free).
My normal daily drive is about 20 miles roundtrip to and from work.
Just in preparation, I wanted tips on how to charge my Model 3, so that I preserve range throughout the years and preserve battery life.
I have read the Tesla website where it says to charge with low voltage daily and stay between 10-90% charge.
Is 220V considered to high then in this scenario?
And is someone able to provide tips on how to maintain my battery life and range?
I am one of those people that likes to research things to the death so that I live in the most optimal way
Thank you for reading. Cheers
Two things ...
@ Teslizzel23: If I was starting over, I'd leave charge limit at 90% and charge to that daily. I think 220V is considered normal voltage for these cars.
Second thing: I think something is off with the software in these cars. I love my 2019 LR RWD, but lately I've noticed this ...
1. I received the car in June of 2019
2. It charged reliably to 292 for 90% for months.
3. It charged to 324 once at 100% for a trip
4. After a software update around October 2019, 100% became 318, 90% 286
5. Around March 2020, my 100% suddenly became 310
6. Since COVID started, the car sits a lot and loses charge just cooling itself
7. I never let the SOC drop below 45% or so, but when I charge from < 60% to 90%, the mileage number generally drifts down from 279 each time (think it was 277 last)
Doesn't make me particularly anxious, as I bought the LR expecting this and I'm around the 5% loss that most consensus says is normal. Just thought I'd share a bit.
@ Teslizzel23: If I was starting over, I'd leave charge limit at 90% and charge to that daily. I think 220V is considered normal voltage for these cars.
Second thing: I think something is off with the software in these cars. I love my 2019 LR RWD, but lately I've noticed this ...
1. I received the car in June of 2019
2. It charged reliably to 292 for 90% for months.
3. It charged to 324 once at 100% for a trip
4. After a software update around October 2019, 100% became 318, 90% 286
5. Around March 2020, my 100% suddenly became 310
6. Since COVID started, the car sits a lot and loses charge just cooling itself
7. I never let the SOC drop below 45% or so, but when I charge from < 60% to 90%, the mileage number generally drifts down from 279 each time (think it was 277 last)
Doesn't make me particularly anxious, as I bought the LR expecting this and I'm around the 5% loss that most consensus says is normal. Just thought I'd share a bit.
Celledral
Member
Every week I’m losing 1-2miles on my SR+ With 24kmi. Estimated range of 210 when slider set to 100. Was told the initial degradation would ease off, but it’s been on a constant pace since I got the car. It’s turning into a game for me at the moment and I’m looking forward to 199miles at full charge.
Pretty ridiculous seeing a LR model 3 with 100,000+ miles that lives only off super chargers have less degradation than mine. Obviously a contributing a factor is the LR battery.
Pretty ridiculous seeing a LR model 3 with 100,000+ miles that lives only off super chargers have less degradation than mine. Obviously a contributing a factor is the LR battery.
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Not an SR? SR+?
It's possible having the pack is inherently less stable. Get it looked at.
Celledral
Member
I would be happy if it was an SR with only a 10mi degradation. Unfortunately I’m down 30miles for a car that don’t have much to work with. Fortunately this is a transitional car for me, but annoying nonetheless.
pl8dlikafiddle
Member
There’s comfort in numbers....not really. Mine was at 209 yesterday when I checked. August 2019 SR+ with 21k miles.
SleeperService
Member
2018 P3D Stealth with 41132 miles on it. Currently 85% SOC is 255 miles, which is 300 miles at 100% calculated. Pulling the slider to the right (100%) when in miles mode shows 298 miles. Not bad... Had a bit of a drop a month or so ago, but it seems to have "recovered" almost completely from that.
Range loss regained - but no idea why.
1. software update in May?
2. charging to 80% rather than 90%?
3. COVID antibodies?
3. anybody's guess?
Nov 2018 M3D Extended Range 26400 miles
two road-trips 1600 and 1000 miles.
all home charges other than V2 superchargers on the road-trips
Two charges to 100%
Is this rather steady loss and recovery common?
The X axis on the graph is heavily truncated, but even so...
1. software update in May?
2. charging to 80% rather than 90%?
3. COVID antibodies?
3. anybody's guess?
Nov 2018 M3D Extended Range 26400 miles
two road-trips 1600 and 1000 miles.
all home charges other than V2 superchargers on the road-trips
Two charges to 100%
Is this rather steady loss and recovery common?
The X axis on the graph is heavily truncated, but even so...
pl8dlikafiddle
Member
My SR+ has been and is like that aswell it’s almost 9 months old or so and been way lower then others since we got it,
i Have forced Tesla to look at it 2 times but in short “no errors fits the fleet, we don’t do anything about it” They even say and tell you capacity remaining is secret and I was lucky I didn’t get charged for a battery check
Even when it’s less stable (up to at least 86 mV imbalance I’ve manages to measure!) like our SR+ pack they are not going to do anything about the batterypack.
simple answer: “within Tesla spec, no errors shown”
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