Aggmeister2010
Active Member
Yeah you’re still not getting it with the BMW reference, and it’s too insignificant of a point to keep trying to explain it. It’s fine. All the best to you, man.
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I did not have “electronics upgrades” with that car. It all depends on what your definition of is is.Ok, Bill Clinton, now your changing the definition of the word "upgrade"? How are the the BMW Nav computer and display screens not "factory built upgrades"??
But fine, you've dig your hole for everyone to see, so I'm fine with that.
I wouldn't trust a Tesla engineer for the "final word" on anything not Tesla engineering related.
That said, I'm sure he'll confirm, in his capacity, what the rest of of us are trying to tell you.
Ok, Bill Clinton, now your changing the definition of the word "upgrade"? How are the the BMW Nav computer and display screens not "factory built upgrades"??
I think they will make money on this.I doubt the profit on the upgrades will cover the dev/testing spend, but could be wrong on this too.
For those of us on AP2 are we getting new cameras if we upgrade to MCU2? How would dashcam work otherwise?
For MCU2/AP2 vehicles, it's likely the FSD computer upgrade is just the computer - and doesn't include the cameras
Then how would the dash cam feature work if the cameras are still the one used from AP2?
No wait necessary. Those solutions have been around since the early 60's. We used to call them a Six Transistor Radio. $ 6.95Waiting for aftermarket fm/am radio car powered kits to show up.
You can go read the thread on my completed upgrade...Then how would the dash cam feature work if the cameras are still the one used from AP2?
I'm with you Hank. He keeps moving the goal posts. I'm not going to even comment on what he trying to say or saying. He doesn't get it and doesn't know what's offered what's retained. And I don't care if he get it later. Not worth the investment in time and words.
I emailed a Tesla engineer for their final word, I’ll post that when i get it.
I've confirmed that in 2020.8.x firmwares, there's a new car configuration line that enables/disables the new tuner for mcu2. That's how tesla is going to manage retrofits - so it won't be as easy as just wiring the new tuner and expecting it to work with mcu2 - you'll also need a way to change the car configuration on the gateway to change the configuration to enable tuner. BTW - it's counterintuitive, but, this is how Tesla is DISABLING the tuner:
Tesla will add "ethernettunertype 1" to the car's configuration and to revert you need to change it to "0", or just delete the line.
I know, strange that disabling it is "1", and enabling the tuner is "0", but that's what it is.
See I retrofit MCU2, IC2, Tuner2, and FSD Computer into my HW2.0 CarIf I understand the situation correctly, the AM/FM tuner (tuner0) has an analog output that goes into an analog input in MCU1. Whereas the new FM only tuner (tuner1) (+/- XM radio) has a digital output.
Is the digital stream from tuner1 on a separate bus or on the in car Ethernet bus ?
The digital tuner/FM uses a connector on its new car/MCU2 wiring harness to plug into a ethernet-twisted pair (not RJ45 type) new on the back of MCU2 that does not exist on MCU1.Interesting.
If I understand the situation correctly, the AM/FM tuner (tuner0) has an analog output that goes into an analog input in MCU1. Whereas the new FM only tuner (tuner1) (+/- XM radio) has a digital output.
Is the digital stream from tuner1 on a separate bus or on the in car Ethernet bus ?