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Meh, skip LED headlights and go right to laser!

Max*

Charging
Apr 8, 2015
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It's not Tesla's fault. Silly America

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Americans won’t have to worry about pros and cons for now, because these  lasers won’t be coming to their cars just yet. The archaic U.S. federal  automotive lighting regulations prohibit technically advanced headlamps  (aside from those that swivel to follow curves) with features beyond  largely standardized low- and high beams. Those include adaptive units  such as the Audi and BMW lasers, or Mercedes’ latest LEDs.
 
FWIW, I test drove the Acura with LED headlights.
Other than the "new technology factor", I think Tesla's headlights look much much prettier, and they actually work better (brighter) than LED.
Also, switching from Xenon to LED is going to make zero difference to range.

Also someone did spot a test mule with LED lights - LED Headlight Tesla Model S Test Mule - YouTube .. and to me they look ugly.
 
It's not Tesla's fault. Silly America

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Americans won’t have to worry about pros and cons for now, because these  lasers won’t be coming to their cars just yet. The archaic U.S. federal  automotive lighting regulations prohibit technically advanced headlamps  (aside from those that swivel to follow curves) with features beyond  largely standardized low- and high beams. Those include adaptive units  such as the Audi and BMW lasers, or Mercedes’ latest LEDs.

I don't know why so many Americans (and people in the rest of the world) think lots of regulations are a good thing.
 

Dbitter1

Journeyman Member
Dec 12, 2014
212
11
Chicago, IL
I don't know why so many Americans (and people in the rest of the world) think lots of regulations are a good thing.

Please don't confuse "Americans" (as in, people who believe in freedom, independence, and our [diety-of-choice]-given rights as human beings) with "attorneys out for self interest" and "nanny state socialist wanna-bees", both of which are responsible for most of the regulations you speak of.

Someone else said it best: "My country I love. It's my government that creates all the problems".

It is truly innovative disruptive companies like Tesla that restore my faith in humanity and America. After owning and driving many cars, and settling with Audi (with other German cars closely behind) I thought I'd never voluntarily set foot in, much less own, an American car again. And now, you'd have to pry my Tessie from my cold dead fingers...

(This will get off-topic fast...)
 
Please don't confuse "Americans" (as in, people who believe in freedom, independence, and our [diety-of-choice]-given rights as human beings) with "attorneys out for self interest" and "nanny state socialist wanna-bees", both of which are responsible for most of the regulations you speak of.

Someone else said it best: "My country I love. It's my government that creates all the problems".

It is truly innovative disruptive companies like Tesla that restore my faith in humanity and America. After owning and driving many cars, and settling with Audi (with other German cars closely behind) I thought I'd never voluntarily set foot in, much less own, an American car again. And now, you'd have to pry my Tessie from my cold dead fingers...

(This will get off-topic fast...)

Yeah, off topic... :)

Yes, Tesla is great, one of the reasons I'm an owner. It is unfortunate that they have to fight regulations to make advancements. I still blame most Americans, though, because it is our collective complacency that at least allows these types of roadblocks to innovation.
 
Yeah, I thought it was pretty odd when my Tesla didn't come with LED headlights. I've been driving with them on my LS600hL for 7 years now. They're cool, but honestly I think xenon on my other cars (and an LS460 which is the same care with xenon headlights) work a little better.

Now the energy savings part - that has meaning for the Tesla, other than that, Meh...
 

ItsNotAboutTheMoney

Well-Known Member
Jul 12, 2012
12,486
11,085
Maine
Please don't confuse "Americans" (as in, people who believe in freedom, independence, and our [diety-of-choice]-given rights as human beings) with "attorneys out for self interest" and "nanny state socialist wanna-bees", both of which are responsible for most of the regulations you speak of.

Someone else said it best: "My country I love. It's my government that creates all the problems".

It is truly innovative disruptive companies like Tesla that restore my faith in humanity and America. After owning and driving many cars, and settling with Audi (with other German cars closely behind) I thought I'd never voluntarily set foot in, much less own, an American car again. And now, you'd have to pry my Tessie from my cold dead fingers...

(This will get off-topic fast...)

And it should be remembered that without regulations the many people who simply don't give a flying pig about how their stuff affects other people would be affecting other people more. Headlights are important for safety, but how they impact other drivers is important. The regulations are not onerous, just restrictive, so it's a matter of getting the new technology approved.
 

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