Someone on a battery usage thread got me thinking to look at this method a bit closer for myself.
TL;DR if you have a long enough trip with data points at the start/end, you can use the trip meter info to back-calculate what the car's drop in displayed % or km range equals in actual energy with a more precise "kWh" figure than "5 kWh" (e.g. 4.91 kWh). Using this number you can see how many kWh the car thinks "100%" is.
For a trip from point A to B (with no "park" time at all so vampire drain of any sort is not an issue), if you take the distance (d) in km (or mi) and the consumption (c) in Wh/km (or Wh/mi) you can calculate a more precise amount of energy used (e) than what is displayed by the trip meters. e.g.
I was angling at trying to use this more precise consumption info to extrapolate the capacity the car thinks it has ... but unfortunately the lack of sig figs in the reported % SoC 'estimates' and the fact you have to subtract two of them to get % used for a trip makes for a pretty wide range there
e.g. this trip went from "74%" to "64%" SoC. If I naively use 10%, I get 4.91 kWh / 10% = 49.1 kWh capacity (usable? actual? projected?). Of course that 10% could be anywhere from 9.0001% to 10.9999% due to the fact "74%" could be 73.5% to 74.499% and likewise for "64%" ... and now I get a range with a wide range [] of 44.6kWh to 54.6kWh
Having a longer trip that uses more "%" would help I suppose. Or I could use the change in rated km instead of %, hmm...
Ok, so ya, this trip used 38 km on the range meter ... whether that's actual rated, or estimated, or rated-based-on-degraded-battery, or rated-based-on-degraded-and-temperature, or something else?? I am not sure. For the first few weeks I had the car it was exactly 'rated', but it changed at some point after that. e.g. 90% used to be 347km (of the 386 SR+ rated range). Now 90% might be 337, 338, or 339 depending on the day implying my range is 374-377km, not 386km
Anyways, using "38km", as being 37.500-38.499km, as a % of 386km that is 9.715-9.974% used for this trip. If I use the 376km reduced range number, it is 9.973-10.239%.
Those give me capacity numbers of 49.23-50.54 kWh (using 386km) or 47.95-49.23 kWh (using 376km).
I guess that's as close as I'm going to get without a longer trip to make the rounding errors smaller. So what is this telling me ... my actual ideal battery capacity is 49.23-50.54kWh, but my currently estimated capacity is less, and 48-49-ish kWh?
I'd be curious if anyone has a longer trip stats if their numbers match up to 'advertised' battery capacity (not actually advertised, but seems people have concluded by whatever means that SR+ is 50 kWh, and LR is 75 kWh, or 'ish').
NOTE:
My understanding from reading the forums is the trip meters only 'run' while driving, but your range meter will drop while parked and on, or asleep due to vampire drain, so for this method to be meaningful (for however meaningful it may be) you would need to run the numbers on a snapshot of right before/after a trip excluding any parked time.
TL;DR if you have a long enough trip with data points at the start/end, you can use the trip meter info to back-calculate what the car's drop in displayed % or km range equals in actual energy with a more precise "kWh" figure than "5 kWh" (e.g. 4.91 kWh). Using this number you can see how many kWh the car thinks "100%" is.
For a trip from point A to B (with no "park" time at all so vampire drain of any sort is not an issue), if you take the distance (d) in km (or mi) and the consumption (c) in Wh/km (or Wh/mi) you can calculate a more precise amount of energy used (e) than what is displayed by the trip meters. e.g.
d = 34.1 km
c = 144 Wh/km
e = d * c = 4,910.4 Wh = 4.91 kWh (vs displayed on trip meter as just "5 kWh")
c = 144 Wh/km
e = d * c = 4,910.4 Wh = 4.91 kWh (vs displayed on trip meter as just "5 kWh")
I was angling at trying to use this more precise consumption info to extrapolate the capacity the car thinks it has ... but unfortunately the lack of sig figs in the reported % SoC 'estimates' and the fact you have to subtract two of them to get % used for a trip makes for a pretty wide range there
e.g. this trip went from "74%" to "64%" SoC. If I naively use 10%, I get 4.91 kWh / 10% = 49.1 kWh capacity (usable? actual? projected?). Of course that 10% could be anywhere from 9.0001% to 10.9999% due to the fact "74%" could be 73.5% to 74.499% and likewise for "64%" ... and now I get a range with a wide range [] of 44.6kWh to 54.6kWh
Having a longer trip that uses more "%" would help I suppose. Or I could use the change in rated km instead of %, hmm...
Ok, so ya, this trip used 38 km on the range meter ... whether that's actual rated, or estimated, or rated-based-on-degraded-battery, or rated-based-on-degraded-and-temperature, or something else?? I am not sure. For the first few weeks I had the car it was exactly 'rated', but it changed at some point after that. e.g. 90% used to be 347km (of the 386 SR+ rated range). Now 90% might be 337, 338, or 339 depending on the day implying my range is 374-377km, not 386km
Anyways, using "38km", as being 37.500-38.499km, as a % of 386km that is 9.715-9.974% used for this trip. If I use the 376km reduced range number, it is 9.973-10.239%.
Those give me capacity numbers of 49.23-50.54 kWh (using 386km) or 47.95-49.23 kWh (using 376km).
I guess that's as close as I'm going to get without a longer trip to make the rounding errors smaller. So what is this telling me ... my actual ideal battery capacity is 49.23-50.54kWh, but my currently estimated capacity is less, and 48-49-ish kWh?
I'd be curious if anyone has a longer trip stats if their numbers match up to 'advertised' battery capacity (not actually advertised, but seems people have concluded by whatever means that SR+ is 50 kWh, and LR is 75 kWh, or 'ish').
NOTE:
My understanding from reading the forums is the trip meters only 'run' while driving, but your range meter will drop while parked and on, or asleep due to vampire drain, so for this method to be meaningful (for however meaningful it may be) you would need to run the numbers on a snapshot of right before/after a trip excluding any parked time.