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Michelin pilot Sport a/s 4 VS CrossClimate+

heems

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Jan 10, 2011
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Since you're in a SR+, you will still have to carry chains and put them on, if it snows more than lightly, in the mountains, correct? If you were in a LR-AWD, with CC+, you could avoid the chains? If the first answer is yes, then why not get the better tire for most of your driving conditions, since you'd have to put on chains if it snowed heavily, either way. And in light snow, just take it easy for those once a year trips.

Actually this is for the stealth performance so it is awd. I was mostly trying to make the impression that the true snow handling was going to be rare and not make it a big factor in my decision making process. As you put it, the issue is what is the better tire for most of my SoCal driving? To me, better is great efficiency and comfort over sport handling. I think CCs tick the comfort box while not sacrificing too much handling. The last issue then is efficiency. Are the CCs more efficient? The $64M question. :)
 

KenC

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Sep 4, 2018
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Actually this is for the stealth performance so it is awd. I was mostly trying to make the impression that the true snow handling was going to be rare and not make it a big factor in my decision making process. As you put it, the issue is what is the better tire for most of my SoCal driving? To me, better is great efficiency and comfort over sport handling. I think CCs tick the comfort box while not sacrificing too much handling. The last issue then is efficiency. Are the CCs more efficient? The $64M question. :)
My bad. I doubt the CC+ is more efficient, but I would guess they are within 5% of OEM tire efficiency.
 

heems

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Jan 10, 2011
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San Diego
Well the new “choos” are on. So far my lifetime on the original primacy and my driving style over 3 years / 25K has been 243 Wh/mile. Shall see where we land with these in the next few years and 25K miles.

First ride home impression - I can’t tell a difference in noise or handling. Maybe a slight humm but I could also be imagining it. So far so good.

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007Bond

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Sep 9, 2018
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I just got 4 235/45R-18 MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE2 XL installed they seem a bit more aggressive of a pattern vs the + but so far I don't notice any extra noise and they ride very nice. At $197 a tire Im happy.
 

rebel1996

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Jul 8, 2019
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Orlando
So the CC+ is discontinued and the Crossclimate 2 replaces the +. I hate manufacturers using names/models that don’t Google well. Like using the symbol + or = messes up search engines, also Chevy Bolt is a terrible name, if you want to find things about the car you get results for GM 10mm bolts and so on.
Anyway, for some reason the Pilot 4 sport all season was in stock and the crossclimate 2 was 4 days out and more expensive, so I’ll replace the meh factory tesla 18 inch mxm4 with Pilot 4 all season. The cross climate+ and 2 supposedly have better rain and anti-hydroplaning (my most important concern) but I don’t have anything but the crowdshared Google spreadsheet for reference (9.4 vs 9)
 

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