See this estimate by the government. The biggest surprise to me is the # of Fisker Nina's estimated. That is where all the money will go.So at a billion now... still no visible progress...
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See this estimate by the government. The biggest surprise to me is the # of Fisker Nina's estimated. That is where all the money will go.So at a billion now... still no visible progress...
They have just collated numbers that automakers gave them. Question is, what was Fisker smoking ;-)I wonder what they were smoking when they made that chart.
I would bet money that zero Ninas are delivered in 2012.
When I see any kind of prototype I might change my mind.
Question is, what was Fisker smoking ;-)
When you are loaning out billions of $'s, of course there is a need to be as optomistic as possible. It will be interesting to look back at this list in 3 or 4 years and see who hit their numbers. Tesla I bet easily hits theirs and will be selling another model or two by the end of the schedule that is not even on the list yet. Nissan and Ford can probably at least hit their numbers, and GM likely can as well. Even without Fisker who you have to have some doubts about, overall the chances are good for well over a million EVs on US roads by the end of 2015.
Kind of a bogus list anyway...list of Electric veh's when around 50% aren't true EVs.
... overall the chances are good for well over a million EVs on US roads by the end of 2015.
Per the chart, half a million of these "EV" sales will be from GM's Volt. The ongoing debate is whether the Volt should really be classified as an EV but rather a hybrid. Reaching a million EV's on U.S. roads not as doable as the chart suggests.
Is it a pure EV? No. But it's more EV than the Fisker. In some ways it's more EV than the Leaf
In some ways it's more EV than the Leaf, even ...
I say it's more EV than the Leaf because Nissan purposefully dumbed-down all the potential EV goodness in the Leaf trying to make it more gas burner like. Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid. The Leaf can't be made to drive like an EV like the Volt can.
It really depends on how people drive it. If they drive in EV mode all the time, then it's 100% EV. If they never charge the battery and run it on gasoline everyday, it's 0% EV. The more expensive gasoline becomes compared with electricity, the more that people will be sure they keep it charged and run mostly in EV mode, that's for certain. It's hard to say that it's more EV than the Leaf though, because in that case you have no gasoline option at all. To say that the Volt is not an EV, however, is just not correct. It is 100% EV with the option of decreasing the 100% all the way down to 0% depending on the situation. Somebody could stick a gas-powered generator on the back of a Roadster as well, and I don't think anybody would say that the Roadster is not an EV anymore because of it.....
You are probably correct in the long run - but the initial buyers are volt enthusiasts - and many of them have driven hundreds of miles without using gas.I think you also need to consider why the consumer bought the volt...probably no way to calculate this, but if 50% of the Volt buyers chose the volt because the pure EV range of the Leaf was insufficient for their needs, then we can expect a significant number of Volt miles to be achieved whilst under gas power.
I didn't know the definition of EVs had changed It is like saying iPad are not a computer since it has been so dumbed down.I say it's more EV than the Leaf because Nissan purposefully dumbed-down all the potential EV goodness in the Leaf trying to make it more gas burner like. Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid. The Leaf can't be made to drive like an EV like the Volt can.
Very unlikely. We will continue to have volatile gas prices - though inexorably hitting higher highs and higher lows.Gas in the US will pass $4/gal this year, probably never to return to below that.
The only reason the engine is ever physically connected to the drivetrain it not because it's necessary, but because it's more efficient.