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Minnesota SuperCharger Future Location Discussion

Discussion in 'Midwest/Great Lakes' started by Evbwcaer, Dec 4, 2014.

  1. Evbwcaer

    Evbwcaer Member

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    I am very excited to see MN is scheduled to get 5 more SC's in 2015, hopefully the schedule sticks.

    As the map stands now, I think there is a need to move things a little bit or add an SC in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area.

    If the map holds there will be a 223 mile gap between Eau Claire and Alexandria on 94, and 228 from Albert Lea to Alexandria, too far. They could move the Alexandria SC east to around St. Cloud because Fargo is only 107 miles from Alexandria. St. Cloud to Fargo is 171 miles.

    The SC that appears around Cloquet is also tough because it is 231 miles from Albert Lea. This SC could move south toward Hinckley, but then you start to under serve the NE part of the state and you still have 175 miles from Albert Lea to Hinckley.

    I think Tesla needs to 1) add an SC in the MPLS/SP area or 2) pull the Cloquet SC south and the Alexandria SC east.

    Having an SC in MPLS/SP would also make it easier to access the Brainerd and Bemidji SC's. It could also mean the Cloquet SC could move to Duluth.

    What do you guys think?

    If there were a SuperCharger in MPLS/SP I think the Mall of America or the West End development in St. Louis Park would be worth considering.
     
  2. dave

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    I only make this trip once a year, but to make it up to Canada I could really use a supercharger in Minneapolis and Fargo, ND.
     
  3. tomcherv

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    I have a son at Moorhead State and have been trying to think how I could get there in a Tesla. Between St. Cloud and Alex would be good.
    I would vote for Mall of America, unless more than one gets added to the metro area.
     
  4. Zythryn

    Zythryn MS 70D, MX 90D

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    Already being planned, although a metro area charger is not currently as high a priority.
    As for west end or MOA I think either would be awful.
    Too much time off the highway and real estate is likely too expensive at west end.
    I suspect we will eventually see two in the metro area. One near 169&694. The other around 35W(or E) and 94 IF they can find a suitable location/cost. The 35/94 one first would be my guess.

    If you have suggestions, send them to [email protected].
     
  5. Evbwcaer

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    The West End is only a few miles from the 35/94 interchange, and also 169, 100, 394, and 494. It has a lot of parking as well as tons of restaurants, a 24 hour grocery store, a movie theater, a few hotels, a Lifetime Fitness, and Costco all easily within walking distance. Why do you think that is awful?

    35/94 would be good geographically, I just can't think of specifically where you would put it that offers easy access and complementary businesses/services.
     
  6. tomcherv

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    Trying to think of a good 35E/94 spot, and the best I can think of is the Sears between Marion and Rice streets (right by the capitol). It's pretty easy on/off. Another spot could be near the Cathedral. Neither are downtown, but there are open lots.

    I could eventually see 4 in the metro area; 94/694/494 (Woodbury area), Maple Grove, 35W/494 (Bloomington area), 35E/694 (Shoreview/Maplewood). Near major entry/exit points to the cities, and spread out enough for users.

    Keep in mind - I neither own nor drive a Tesla - just been thinking about it a lot.
     
  7. paco3791

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    As someone who regularly drives from Eau Claire to Duluth I REALLY hope they don't put a SC in Cloquet, that would be such a waste! Downtown Duluth might be tough because of parking but the DECC parking area isn't too far from the Canal Park district which has a bunch of restaurants and other stuff to do. Make it happen Tesla!
     
  8. Evbwcaer

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    I heard it through the rumor mill that the original plan was Duluth but they are looking further south. I really hope it is Duluth too, and near Canal Park would really be cool.
    As someone who travels from Mpls to Ely and Grand Marais often, Duluth would be great in all respects (mid-way between metro and many NE MN destinations, Duluth is a a great place to spend time, it is the geographic hub of the area.)

    The "problem" is if you don't have a metro area Supercharger, then it is too far from existing SC's to make Duluth. If I had to take a guess at it I would say the Tobie's parking lot in Hinckley will get some consideration. If you are listening Tesla, please go with Duluth, and within walking distance of Canal Park.
     
  9. glhs272

    glhs272 Unnamed plug faced villian

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    I was thinking Forest Lake area would be good for getting out of the Twin Cities heading north. Perhaps another in Duluth area. Then more heading east on highway 2 towards the UP. Maybe Ironwood area.
     
  10. Vexar

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    If you're travelling through and need to charge near 169 & 694, stop at Great River Energy. They have Chargepoint chargers there. While you are there, you can walk around their park and read about what they are doing in renewable energy, resource-efficient landscaping, and power generation. Just don't talk about their big coal plant. Shh! If you find you need a bite to eat, the Arbor Lakes mall is across the street.
     
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    I believe that the Duluth SC location will be somewhere between Clouqet and Duluth? But perhaps Hinckley would be a better location. Perhaps at Toby's? We had a cabin in Danbury, WI and I know a lot of TC residents in the area also. This way, it would be beneficial not only for the N-S traffic but also those heading east into western Wisconsin. I see that Evbwcaer mentioned this. The simple fact is that Tesla is going to have to go for closer density in these cold northern states so eventually, why not both Duluth and another midway point on 35W? Not to mention all those future Model X owners towing boats and snowmobiles. They will utilize more power obviously when they tow.
     
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    Pine City/Hinckley, Saint Cloud and the Metro are showing 2015 to me.
     
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    I believe that was a change from the time these were discovered to the time they were posted to the Super Charger tab on the Tesla site. This is very good!
     
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    Great news for the Twin Cities to finally have one. Looking forward to info on it (location, stalls, etc.)
     
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    I think having the Supercharger at Toby's in Hinckley is a no brainer.
     
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    Just got a response to an inquiry of mine from the supercharger team that they are actively scouting locations in Duluth and they too think that somewhere with access to both MN 35 and WI 53 is the best option. They also asked for site suggestions and I mentioned the DECC complex and Canal Park as I've previously mentioned on these forums. Here's hoping that can make that work somehow.

    Just another reminder that they are open and looking for email feedback at:[TR="class: ajv"][/TR]
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  18. flankspeed8

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    Ok, I only know we are 45 days into 2015, but from the maps, it looks like Tesla is promising us 4 Super Chargers this year. Shouldn't we start hearing about permitting soon? What is the lead time? Certainly they have to have some sites firmed up soon.
     
  19. Vexar

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    I think Canal Park will be frustrating for travelers. It gets very busy at certain times during the year.
     
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    Agreed, it's a great location but parking is a real bear in peak season. Which is why I think one of the DECC parking lots would be ideal. Right next door all the attractions in canal park but with less of a premium on parking.
     

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