roblab
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So much excitement because company A is a few months more advanced than company B. Y'know, at 74, it just doesn't make all that much difference.
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I don't understand how anyone could read my post and come out with the same conclusion. I think i made it pretty obvious i was only talking about the Tesla demo.
Overwhelmingly impressive. Shows you how ahead they are of the competition.
You mean a footage that has about 8 turns on public road (7 from stop sign), (1 from traffic light). No lane changes. These are the things mobileye been doing since 2013. These are easy. The footage is also littered with mistakes.
The rest of the footage from :46 secs to 2:30s is footage of driving on the road with absolutely no car in sight. zero. none. And that's supposed to be impressive? That's like 5 miles of driving on completely empty road with no road users.. Mobileye is doing something that haven't been done before. I have only seen cruise do on a more cautious level.
If all you want to see is side road, stop signs, traffic lights, then go watch videos from Delphi (aptiv), and Nissan. They both use mobileye for vision and mapping. Personally, i don't really care for demos and only care about production launches.
You seem to be hard over and trying to get a rise. I’m not putting down what Mobileye showed but I’m not dismissing understanding intersections either. I found a Mobileye presentation from a couple of years ago much more impressive. In particular they recognized some complex traffic light configurations.
It will be interesting to see how the specialized processor approach of Mobileye plays out compared to the more general neural network approach of Tesla. Neural nets initially develop slowly but have the potential to perform better in the end.
incorrect. Tesla doesn't use a more general neural network. This is again another fable and myth that surrounds Tesla. Everyone uses deep learning, everyone uses convulutional neural net. Tesla system is basically a copy of what everyone else is doing. At one point Tesla was literally using GoogleNet model from 2012. The only one actually doing something different is Mobileye who are using reinforcement learning quite heavily and its REM mapping.
Tesla reality is quite different than the fiction.
incorrect. Tesla doesn't use a more general neural network. This is again another fable and myth that surrounds Tesla. Everyone uses deep learning, everyone uses convulutional neural net. Tesla system is basically a copy of what everyone else is doing. At one point Tesla was literally using GoogleNet model from 2012. The only one actually doing something different is Mobileye who are using reinforcement learning quite heavily and its REM mapping.
Tesla reality is quite different than the fiction.
Look at the Mobileye chip architecture and tell me they are general purpose and neural net based. The last time I looked at their die it was segmented into very targeted processing units.
You know you CAN love Tesla and appreciate a competitor product as well.
FSD is still half a decade away, minimum.
We had a brief amount of hope from Audi with their L3 A8, but then they decided against introducing it in the US for the foreseeable future.