Yes you can actually adjust higher than stock ride height (if needed)
I understand what those are trying to do. But they can make the car handle differently at the limit in lower grip weather (or on lower-grip tires), compared to high-grip situations. At what shock extension do they activate with default/recommended setup?
I see what you mean. Yeah if you'd like to run without them you definitely can. I'll put a chart together to show at what point they become active (dependent on ride height). Though, in low grip situations (wet, street tires, etc) you can't generate as much grip and therefore will not get as much body roll - which will keep them less active at the limit of traction. Obviously there are a number of factors here. But if you'd prefer to run without them you can omit them during the install.
Absolutely, if you would like we can omit them from your shipment. However, they do not create inconsistent handling, the net effect (at the limit) is actually additional grip and more consistent handling (as helper/assist springs are only active / at play at the limit - they are flat ground springs that are completely compressed in normal use).
What assist springs do (think of them as higher-rate helper springs) is selectively provide a lower spring rate than your main spring, for an individual wheel that is being unloaded. In general, a softer spring will generate more grip - which is desirable with an unloaded wheel, but does not provide good roll control when the wheel is loaded. When you combine an assist spring on top of a main spring, you end up with the best of both worlds - with the assist spring only active in more extreme conditions where significant amount of weight is being removed from an individual wheel... you will find the handling at the limit to be *more* consistent, not less.
The difference I noticed.
MPP is Blue. Redwood is Orange.
It would not be fair to either companies nor the community for me to report more than that. The two cars I drove back to back are in different states of setup and tuning. My car has all the MPP suspension bits shipped in 2019 installed and dialed for street on 255/35/19 PS4S dialed for street. Redwood car has Redwood/Ohlins coilover and Redwood FUCA with stock 18” tires.
Its better to take offline then
Do you have picture of your car with 255/35/19 and how much did you lower? I have been told in other places that 255/35/19 is lower size than stock and would look bad.
Absolutely, if you would like we can omit them from your shipment. However, they do not create inconsistent handling, the net effect (at the limit) is actually additional grip and more consistent handling (as helper/assist springs are only active / at play at the limit - they are flat ground springs that are completely compressed in normal use).
What assist springs do (think of them as higher-rate helper springs) is selectively provide a lower spring rate than your main spring, for an individual wheel that is being unloaded. In general, a softer spring will generate more grip - which is desirable with an unloaded wheel, but does not provide good roll control when the wheel is loaded. When you combine an assist spring on top of a main spring, you end up with the best of both worlds - with the assist spring only active in more extreme conditions where significant amount of weight is being removed from an individual wheel... you will find the handling at the limit to be *more* consistent, not less.
You are better off e-mailing them (and posting answers here if you want those shared). They are pretty responsive.
I will be waiting for the day! curious to see how they ride for sure, did you get the sport or touring model?
