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Discussion in 'Model 3: Driving Dynamics' started by JTesmod3, Aug 17, 2018.
Finally!! An AWD video! Thanks for sharing
Wow. there are not substantial difference. I was expecting a little more. Glad I bought RWD option. 5k saved.
Depends what you mean by substantial
RWD: 13.6 @101
AWD: 12.6 @110
Please remind us...what was the P3D time for the same run?
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If we look it from price point and quarter mile performance
RWD 13.6 - $49K
AWD 12.6 - $54K
AWD-P 11.7 - $64K
Interesting that 0-60 times for AWD and AWDP are 1 second off and stay that way until end of Quarter mile, so somewhere after 60, acceleration performance is the same/similar as it keeps up.
I ordered the AWD primarily for handling, regen braking, and tire wear. But 0.6 better in 0-60 and 1.0 in the quarter? I’ll take it for $4k! Thanks for sharing the video.
Awd vs Pawd - the Pawd has a better start; keep that in mind
^ Harder to get anything meaningful from that one since the non-P sorta flubbed the start.
Not much difference but I’m still just a bit annoyed that they deprecated the RWD performance after the fact just to boost the appeal of the AWD model. The RWD could easily do 0-60 .3-.5 seconds faster than it does now.
What do you mean?
just that 4-9 months ago, the RWD would consistantly clock 4.6-4.9 s 0-60 times, and now they will only do 5-5.1/2 0-60 times. The acceleration at initial launch has been reduced. It would seem that the acceleration in the mid-ranges is essentially the same though.
Its not clear if this was a cautionary move, reduce strain on motor, components, or if it was intentional in order to put a bit more daylight between at least the 0-60 times for the RWD vs. AWD model (which is spec'd at what 4.5s 0-60?)
before anyone says "where's your proof", just look at all the times recorded last fall 2017 and Q1/Q2 2018 either track results or youtube videos and reviews, and now they are all posting .5 seconds slower times as well for the/their RWD only models.
The pros and cons of OTA updates.
Seen up to 114.99 mph in the quarter for the P3D
Reaction time has no impact on 1/4 mile time. The clock doesn't start until after the launch.
See above. He could've sat there for 10 more minutes before flooring the car and would've run the exact same time.
The trap speed however tells us how little real difference in power there is with these cars- the AWD is software nerfed on launch compared to the P and that's essentially the only significant difference.
There remains 0 actual evidence of this.
Nobody has tested before/after on the same car and shown significant different results to my knowledge.... just a lot of "it FEELS slower" folks- or folks who only tested before, or after.
And FWIW the 4.6 was one guy (the dragtimes one IIRC)- all the car mags got 4.8-5.1.
Can you show me all these examples of the same people showing .5 seconds slower on the same car, same test equipment, and same location?
I haven't seen any- but could certainly have missed them.
This is the fact not the argument. Tesla did slow down the RWD to place a gap between RWD, AWD and P-AWD. This could be mechanical changes or the OTA firmware restriction. But the fact is all Model3 RWD tested after 2018 Apr time frame is slower than the one tested in 2017.
Again, you aren't showing any facts. No one has shown a single car tested on a perfectly level surface in the same temperature conditions, same tires, same driver, etc and shown that the car is slower now than it was before.
What I mean is no need comparing same same same, you simply could not buy a Model 3 LR RWD now 0-60 below 5sec. That’s is the fact.
And still no.
Exclusive first Model 3 Dyno
Dynos done after the dates you cite show no difference in RWD output from the original API data on earlier firmwares.