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Model 3 Body Line Still in Development in Detroit - Reports (incl. WSJ)

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    Quite explosive if true. If Thai believed they would be able to do higher volume production than what they are able to do now that is a massive bottleneck and headache for Tesla.

    Unlike what the article speculates I don't think Tesla would be able to build cars with hand tooled parts well into 2018. Doing so would mean that Tesla would only be able to build and ship a small fraction of the cars it has promised and would pretty much be a massive black eye with potentially thousands of cancelled preorders and angry customers who would end up waiting not just another month or two for a car but potentially an extra year or more.

    In other words, if the 200 car a month rate couldn't be dramatically improved upon in just the next couple of months it could quite literally sink the company.
     
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    The "fully automated" body line is still under production. THis is SHORTS news to try to get some movement in the stock. Lets see where they are at end of Q4 to make snap judgements.
     
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    It sounds more like a tier one supplier of body parts for Tesla. It's very common for car manufacturers to receive entire stamped subcomponents for cars and then assemble them into the entire car.
     
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    That article makes no sense. They quote this from Elon:

    “The Model 3 – the internal name for designing the machine makes the machine is the – we call it the alien dreadnought. At the point at which the factory looks like an alien dreadnought, then you know you’ve won. It’s like, what the hell is that? So we’ve got alien dreadnought version 0.5 will be Model 3. It will take us another year get to version 1 and probably a major version every two years thereafter. By version 3, it won’t look like anything else.”

    The timeline for this pilot body stamping line fits with what Elon is calling Alien dreadnought version 1. And then the article says without any evidence whatsoever: "In the meantime, it seems likely that Tesla is hand-building Model 3 using prototype tooling."

    What?!?? Um, no, they are currently building using the existing assembly line technology. You know, like the one used to build the Model S and X. Are those built by hand?

    I will just leave you with Tesla's comment about the author of this article from last year:

    We don’t know if Mr. Niedermeyer’s motivation is simply to set a world record for axe-grinding or whether he or his associates have something financial to gain by negatively affecting Tesla’s stock price, but it is important to highlight that there are several billion dollars in short sale bets against Tesla. This means that there is a strong financial incentive to greatly amplify minor issues and to create false issues from whole cloth.
     
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    Or this line is never going to Fremont.
    Y you ask? Because it is going to be installed in GF3 located 24 miles north of TSA in 2019. (I hope)
     
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    OH man Ed is back at it.
     
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    Article by Edward Niedermeyer....I stopped reading right there. Well known FUDster .
     
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    Wasn't he the guy with the white horse in Animal House?
     
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    Hmm that's not how I read his tweet. But fair enough. Unfortunately I can't edit the OP.
     
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    #14 BluestarE3, Oct 5, 2017
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    Niedermeyer tweeted:
    To which Charley Grant responded:
    Seems pretty clear to me he's just confirming that Tesla hasn't responded to questions on the topic. He's not responding to the veracity (or lack thereof) of the article itself.
     
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    Should change title to

    EdNed says:
    Model 3 Body Line Still in Development in Detroit - Reports (incl. WSJ)

    Honestly, the WSJ writer, being a professional journalist, should do a better job communicating.
     
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    Even if he wasn't a professional writer, he should do a better job communicating!
     
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    #17 MotoEvCA, Oct 5, 2017
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    Whether the story is true, false, or exaggerated, it is becoming increasingly frustrating to see these stories alongside Musk Says Tesla Can Rebuild Puerto Rico’s Power System. I wish Musk could focus on the Model 3 rollout more.

    Job One IMO is to
    • Communicate more often / accurately to Model 3 customers who have placed reservations
    • Produce more Model 3 feature videos in preparation for the 1st wave of non-employee orders
    In 2017, customers should not have to order a Model 3 'blind' (not 100% clear on features) and a test drive should be available should a reserving customer want one. Otherwise, Tesla should offer a 100% refund on the car should the customer determine they have a change of heart on the day of delivery.

    While the Model 3 is my primary choice, a 2018 Volvo XC60 T8 PHEV will give me 4.9 seconds to 60 MPH, 5-doors, a $5,000 fed tax credit, access to the carpool lane, and....
    Adaptive Cruise Control w/Pilot Assist



    When Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) detects a slower vehicle in front, the speed automatically adapts to that vehicle. If the vehicle in front slows down and stops, ACC will make the your vehicle stop comfortably behind it, and then keep the brakes engaged. The driver can adjust time gaps. ACC is supplemented with Pilot Assist which not only keeps the set speed and distance to a vehicle in front, but also supports the driver in keeping the car within the lane as well. It relieves the driver from the need to constantly adapt the speed to the vehicle in front and adjust the steering to keep within the lane in low speed traffic. Pilot Assist is available at speeds up to 80 mph. Pilot Assist is restricted in how much acceleration, braking and steering force a driver can apply.
     
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    Why?
    He is simply doing his job of propagating the Conservative climate change denial narrative
     
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    Well this would bode well for those hoping for delivery of vehicle 200,000 (US) to occur in Q2 2018!
     
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    Can't we just admit we all have been lately way too optimistic with the car being shipped on time...?

    It could be 6 month late and still be an incredible achievement for Tesla. Even 12 months late would still be impressive.
     
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