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If that's the case, IMO, there should be a TSB telling all techs to check the torque on these things any time a car is raised for any sort of service.Those bolts are notorious for coming loose. Glad you're ok!
Thanks. Checked it and it was ~1/4 turn away from the torque spec. Had a slight suspension noise that I though was an upper ball joint, but noise is, so far, gone; only took it around the block but it usually made noise pulling out of my driveway. Might be a good idea for people to check the torque just in case.
1)the model 3’s battery doesn’t cost $16k. He’ll even a ms 85 pack isn’t that much. The 3 only has a 60kw pack.You should consider a Toyota Camry or Nissan Sentra.
1)the model 3’s battery doesn’t cost $16k. He’ll even a ms 85 pack isn’t that much. The 3 only has a 60kw pack.
how did you reach both bolts? i can see just one when lying on the ground next to the car but not the other?Thanks. Checked it and it was ~1/4 turn away from the torque spec. Had a slight suspension noise that I though was an upper ball joint, but noise is, so far, gone; only took it around the block but it usually made noise pulling out of my driveway. Might be a good idea for people to check the torque just in case.
I have long ramps to work on cars. Drove the Tesla up and removed these 5 bolts (below). The cover flexes enough to get to the control arm bolts.how did you reach both bolts? i can see just one when lying on the ground next to the car but not the other?
one would hope crawling under your car and checking torque specs for absolutely crucial bolts on a 3 yr old vehicle isn't what's needed....
thank you! this is what i suspected... impossible to check unless you can lift the car or have a ramp. hoping for Tesla that this doesn't become more of an issue or fatal accidents... because it clearly is NOT an item the customer can readily check or reasonably should be required to check...I have long ramps to work on cars. Drove the Tesla up and removed these 5 bolts (below). The cover flexes enough to get to the control arm bolts.
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Just out of curiosity. Where are you getting your info on a “new” 85 pack for ms? You are aware that tesla hasn’t actually made an 85 pack for several years. They put 90 packs into the old 85 packs. And then software limit the cars to 85kw.@Alysashley79 No a new Model S 85 pack isn't cheaper. A new replacement pack for your S 85 would be about $19k-$23k installed. You are probably thinking about the cost of another crappy old used, chargedgated pack, which will run about $11k installed from Tesla.
The new pack will give you much faster Supercharging speeds, a bit more capacity, and likely much better reliability / expected life...but does cost twice as much, quite possibly the entire value of the car in working condition.
So $16k for Model 3 SR+ or MR pack replacement with a brand new one sounds about right to me, depending on its exact size. From what I understand there's significantly more labor involved to replace the pack on a Model 3 than on an early Model S which was designed for fast battery swap. (Though I haven't come across an actual service invoice from an out-of-warranty Model 3 pack replacement yet so I'm kind of speculating on the labor being higher.)
And like @jjrandorin said, many of us have Model 3's with 79-82 kWh packs. The 82 kWh pack in my Model 3 is not going to be much cheaper than an 85-90 kWh S pack (the size range Tesla would install in an S 85 - they won't put 100 kWh packs in the RWD cars).
I have an early Model S P85, which already had one pack replacement under warranty, and I'm well out of warranty now. So I've been familiarizing myself with the options. For used packs there are a few 3rd parties that have more appealing options and pricing than Tesla, but availability is limited.
I'm guessing that accidental quote was for a refurb, if it was for $11k. I've been following some of the replacement pack stories on these forums and $11k is very typical for a refurb. I haven't seen any reports of a new pack being offered for that cheap.Just out of curiosity. Where are you getting your info on a “new” 85 pack for ms? You are aware that tesla hasn’t actually made an 85 pack for several years. They put 90 packs into the old 85 packs. And then software limit the cars to 85kw.
I had a 90 pack out into my ms in July. It charges fast and slams into max charge at high soc because it’s limited. It was around 55kw when it was done. That was quoted install and battery at $11k which included a new 12v and some links that had to be replaced because a bigger battery. The quote was an accident because it was under warranty but they confirmed that would be my cost.
In the event of the 3 they handle it the same way. Reman packs. If you’re outside of warranty and paying. It’s a reman pack.
Again I’ll ask where you’re getting your info that tesla is offering “new” replacement batteries. They don’t. Call them and ask. They don’t. They’re all remanI'm guessing that accidental quote was for a refurb, if it was for $11k. I've been following some of the replacement pack stories on these forums and $11k is very typical for a refurb. I haven't seen any reports of a new pack being offered for that cheap.
If you buy a new pack the usable size should not be software limited. If it is it's a mistake, get Tesla to fix it, they surely billed you for the full pack.
Your warranty replacement new pack is a different situation. For that, software limiting to the size of your original pack is typical.
You're lucky to have received a new, faster charging pack under warranty! I believe old refurbished packs are more common.
@Alysashley79 Here's two examples. There's more, just search to find them, I would use Google search with "site:teslamotorsclub.com" over the builtin forum search for this.Again I’ll ask where you’re getting your info that tesla is offering “new” replacement batteries. They don’t. Call them and ask. They don’t. They’re all reman
If that's the case, IMO, there should be a TSB telling all techs to check the torque on these things any time a car is raised for any sort of service.
I know it seems like “new” but they haven’t made any 90 packs in years. They’re just putting reman packs on. My invoice doesn’t say one way or the other but I was told they’re ALL reman.@Alysashley79 Here's two examples. There's more, just search to find them, I would use Google search with "site:teslamotorsclub.com" over the builtin forum search for this.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/service-says-22k-for-new-battery-on-2012-model-s.221438/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/2013-tesla-model-s-p85-battery-failed.279554/