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Mad Hungarian
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I agree that in normal to heavily traveled areas even the dullest tool in the shed wouldn't likely try an attack, for all the reasons you cite. However I worry that even 360 degree in-vehicle camera coverage wouldn't deter the bad guys when it's 3:00 am on a completely deserted stretch of highway. Especially in states/provinces where there are no front license plates and the attacker remains to the rear or side. Or simply uses some kind of plate obscuring device. It'd be real difficult to get a 100% positive ID on the perp.
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Since nobody has actually spelled out a real motive for anybody to do anything I can't imagine it would be any more of a problem than vandalism to any parked car.
dhanson865
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at 3 am are they sure no one is in the car? Tinted windows, dim interior if the AP car wants to run a dark interior there is no downside.
They'd be taking the chance that the car has someone inside with a badge or a gun (legal or not).
In other words in the dark they would have to be willing to attack a Tesla with people inside just as much as a driverless Tesla because they can't be sure.
They'd be taking the chance that the car has someone inside with a badge or a gun (legal or not).
In other words in the dark they would have to be willing to attack a Tesla with people inside just as much as a driverless Tesla because they can't be sure.
Mad Hungarian
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Logically you're correct, and I'm hoping that's true. But the people that do such things rarely risk being mistaken for Mr. Spock. YouTube is awash in proof.
Hmmm, this is a good point and a strong case to tint the car if it was going to be travelling deserted areas by itself at night.
I don't want to dwell on this, I'm usually a very optimistic sort and hate fear mongering, I just have a bad feeling about this for some reason and would have a hard time letting my new pride-and-joy (which I'm guessing is going to cost double what I've ever spent on a previous car by the time I'm finished ticking option boxes) go long distances unescorted. Again, let's hope I'm just being paranoid and this never becomes a "thing".
Mad Hungarian
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Well, fantasy for now but I'm pretty sure we're going to see this in the not-so-distant future. Elon's announcement of 2 years may well be very premature as the regulators will likely be the ones holding it up, but less than 10 years seems a pretty safe bet. I also wasn't just thinking about the thread's premise of delivering the car though, I was more intrigued by some of the ideas discussed where you could travel independently of the car and meet up with it when/where needed. But the longer it takes regulators to get on board the more time manufacturers have to develop the tech and deploy a far greater number of cars able to take advantage of it when the door opens. The question then becomes does more autonomous cars on the road mean less novelty/temptation to mess with them, or more?
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Ah well now, at the risk of thread jacking or duplicating, that's a whole different discussion. I think that's clearly one of the single biggest drivers (sorry, too easy) behind this tech. Uber, Google and the like are obviously keen to capitalize on a whole new business model where we won't need to own our own cars, one that surely has the current OEMs scrambling to figure out the implications for them. Tesla will most certainly be a major player: http://www.greencarreports.com/news...lf-a-million-autonomous-electric-cars-in-2020.
I'd be curious to see polling on how many folks would really go car-less once it's fully available. I cannot EVER imagine not having my own car, I'm way too attached to the whole ownership experience. But I'm a hard-core enthusiast and likely represent no more some single digit percentage of the population.
dhanson865
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Think of what is known today as a multicar family.
They could own one autonomous car and summon spares from the group services.
Owning one would reduce the cost keeping you from having to pay fees as often and allowing you to customize the vehicle.
You'd use it 90% of the time and summon when you have two family members that need more than one car.
Best of both worlds.
Where will all these spares be located? People seem to forget that a lot of people don't live in cities/immediate suburbs. Am I supposed to summon a car from Boston and wait 2 hours for it to show up?
dhanson865
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yup, spares only work in locals where taxis and uber work. Gotta be higher population density. won't work in most of Iowa for example but will work in downtown Des Moines maybe as the one decent sized city in the whole state.
OK maybe around the 2 or 3 colleges in Iowa could have shared cars around campus and the nearest town to campus.
But seriously rural users would have their own cars.
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As of right now, whether you pick it up at the factory or get it delivered, state law requires delivery fee.
Requires? Or just allows? Can you site the law? Seems strange to have a law requiring they charge a delivery fee.
