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He did state that this would be Global in a later tweet but I can't see how this would work because it'll be the 31st here in Oz before the 31st in the US so we'll be able to put a deposit down in store here before the Launch event?! Don't think so.
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just did the calcs, base model at $35000 will be 49,912.81 here.
we wont see it till 2020 at best, might be a lot more by then.He did state that this would be Global in a later tweet but I can't see how this would work because it'll be the 31st here in Oz before the 31st in the US so we'll be able to put a deposit down in store here before the Launch event?! Don't think so.- - - Updated - - -just did the calcs, base model at $35000 will be 49,912.81 here.
A mass market car? I don't think so!! They should be competing with Camry in that space. Fifty grand is not mass market.
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So Tesla is looking for a twenty to forty million dollar interest free loan!! Just order when you are ready. The delay is unlikely to be more than an extra three months or so, IF they have got their act together by then.
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A mass market car? I don't think so!! They should be competing with Camry in that space. Fifty grand is not mass market.
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So Tesla is looking for a twenty to forty million dollar interest free loan!! Just order when you are ready. The delay is unlikely to be more than an extra three months or so, IF they have got their act together by then.
I guess I am no longer the starry eyed enthusiast I was when I gave them a four year interest free loan!! Getting really annoyed with their antics, like the Spotify debacle, the 3 phase connector due a year ago, the delays on the launch in this country and on and on, like the supercharger roll out. Yes, they do eventually get around to it, but boy.....
The car, IF it is launched on time ( doubtful on their record) , will be available 2019 if you are lucky. The X might be available Q2 or Q3 next year, but I wouldn't hold my breath, on my experience to date...
money going out (incentive) = money coming in (tax). I don't need to pay more tax. The operational savings from owning a tesla plus a few charging dedicated solar panels are massive, and tesla could do a lot more marketing to promote that option and it's savings.....not that someone buying a circa 200k car is struggling to operate a car, and tesla sales staff dont seem to be sitting around bored.Also, it would be nice if our new(est) Prime Minister would get his finger out with a little of that "forward vision" and "innovation" he keeps spouting and funds a few incentives (as per U.S.) for people to own EVs.
A fully loaded Model 3 will probably cost close to $100K in Australia and will still sell. Tesla should avoid any ambition to be a mass market producer. The ICE makers will kill them in the market with high volume and low cost. Instead, Tesla needs to be the first EV into each segment, and have a differentiated offering.
Really? What about this for Norway:
"In the month of March this year, Tesla moved over 1,500 of the things. That's not just more cars than any other sold in the country in one month, that's the most cars sold in one month in Norway, ever."
Heres Why The Tesla Model S Is The #1 Selling Car In Norway
With the Model 3 and incentives in Ontario, Canada of up to $14k, who is to say we can't do the same? And if you can get similar incentives in Australia as in Norway, there's no reason you can't also do the same, especially with the Model 3, if Norway can do it with the Model S.
But, as Blue heaven said, the term "mass market car" is referring to the U.S. market and the price point of a Model 3 fits in that category just right, even before incentive. Tesla isn't about offering "segment" cars. Tesla wants to change transportation as we know it altogether - and that includes opening up its patents to other EV makers.
My comments relate to the Australian market.
We will never going get those kind of incentives in Australia. Our wealth fund is the other direction.So did mine. You said "Tesla should avoid any ambition to be a mass market producer" and I said "the term "mass market car" is referring to the U.S. market." I pointed out, however, "if you can get similar incentives in Australia as in Norway" then perhaps the Model 3 can become a mass market car in Australia.
Our governments are there because we elected the most popular person in the electorate. That doesn't mean they have skill, intelligence, or vision. It's always astounded me that the treasurer of any australian state, in charge of more expenditure than any company in that state, doesn't necessarily have an accounting or finance qualification.Indeed, "similar incentives" seems to be something our politicians (incumbent ones anyway) in Canberra, cannot seem to absorb through their thick skins. If "innovative" products like the Tesla M3 are to succeed then they (and others like them) need some short term encouragement. However, as I said, the current Federal Gov ehre is too short sighted to do much about that. State governments likewise. They could forego stamp duty on pure electric vehicles, for instance, and (Say) 50% of that on hybrids, but, no, too difficult for them to see the future staring them in the face.