My WAG: 35k car is a loss leader, with either no margin or small loss. Every penny counts, and yes... they want there to be reasons to buy the upgrades. Nonetheless, I usually charge my S on 32 and it is more than sufficient for overnight charging.
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If a restaurant runs a charger at 72A I suspect it is primary intended for the business owner's Tesla. There is probably no business case for doing it.
Still nice to have, regardless of the reason.
BigMskiman
Active Member
It's the hotel/restaurant in Jamestown, CA, and the owner is really nice and welcomed dog & I. He's not an owner (yet), though dogs are his specialty.
He told me Tesla approached him & installed the charger for free about 2yrs ago. And that, (thru TESLARATI) has brought him some welcome biz......
There's a huge value in 72a chargers for travel, particularly at restaurants and hotels. At hotels, you can get full charge in a short night. At restaurants, you can top off to skip a supercharger. Most restaurants at supercharger store are fast food. A decent restaurant with charger, great. No business case with S volumes..... but with 3?
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Also, at a B&B or the like, more that one person can charge in a short time (one evening?) if the HPWC is an 80 or 72 and the cars have 72 Amp chargers... it's about the main case for the 'large' charger.
ccutrer
Active Member
I don't follow destination chargers that closely, but I was under the impression that ever since the new wall connector came out, the standard practice is to install 2-4 chargers sharing a 100A circuit (assuming the host location has room for that large of a circuit). And really, as a host location, what do you care how fast the electricity you're paying for is, vs. how much? Yes, yes, there are differences because someone may not stay long enough to get a full charge at a restaurant, but they will at a hotel. So 50kWh of energy is 50kWh of energy. Yes, yes, there are different efficiencies at different charge rates, but they're fairly minor. And a Model 3 charging at 32A on a 100A circuit will definitely have far less loss due to voltage drop. Finally, as @tomas said, if your charge isn't fast enough to be a suitable destination for a meal, then it's opportunity cost, not the cost of electricity, that you care about.
Do you think those 30 people are still in position of their model 3 or was it just a show and all these 30 cars are back in factory because they are not quite ready? Why have the next batch of people have to wait a few months before they get their cars
I expect that most of them are using their new Model 3s as we would hope they would. Sure the first ones off the line might have higher than usual "new car" problems, but they are in a good position to have anything looked at and studied right away.
Fingers crossed that the design and suppliers came through, and everything works well enough that production ramp up can proceed as planned.
At the delivery event, in line for Model 3 ride, I was chatting to a supplier representative who got himself to the event to see in person the vehicle that is using their new component. They all want it to be successful and will be watching and ready to make any needed adjustments. Suppliers that don't deliver acceptable components will be replaced.
Fingers crossed that the design and suppliers came through, and everything works well enough that production ramp up can proceed as planned.
At the delivery event, in line for Model 3 ride, I was chatting to a supplier representative who got himself to the event to see in person the vehicle that is using their new component. They all want it to be successful and will be watching and ready to make any needed adjustments. Suppliers that don't deliver acceptable components will be replaced.
I'm sure they want employees out driving. A thousand employee driving Model 3 gives a million miles per month of testing.
LargeHamCollider
Battery cells != scalable
Can anyone who was at the event comment on M3 touchscreen responsive relative to MS/X? @DaveT @FlatSix911
LargeHamCollider
Battery cells != scalable
I had a chance to play around with the screen for a couple minutes. It seemed similar in terms of responsiveness compared to the Model S/X. Things seemed a bit more cramped on the screen though, and less color.
"Wipers On!" voice command...
Should be even faster than manually turning a knob. Welcome to 2017
If it does it with the same speed as it does other voice commands, the rain will have stopped before the wipers start.
What makes you think they are waiting a few months to deliver more cars? I bet they are delivering them as fast as they produce them. Right now that may only be one or two a day though, but there is no reason for them to hold on to them.
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
I can confirm that at least some employees had their cars easily more than a week BEFORE the event and were out driving before the cars were *delivered* to them. So the only *show* was the formality of handing the cars to their *new* owners.
The event was scheduled, the cars were done ... Like 'give me my keys, already!!'
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
The center floating touchscreen seemed very responsive to my touch and compared favorably with the Model S/X.
One interesting observation ... the 15" screen seemed larger that the Model S 17" due to the close proximity to the driver
