Model 3 LR Owner Thinking About Switching To S100D

[croman]

Fun fact F=ma

And I'm an attorney and haven't taken physics for 20 years. Maybe you should take Telsa's chief engineer's opinion. Instead of parroting useless marketing hype, do some research or think critically. People can't think for you and don't let them unless you've evaluated it. So don't take my word for it, get in a book and take a look.

 

[croman]

Further short reading from said chief engineer citing only God (physics).

Twitter

Even he couldn't avoid challenging the deceptive hype from Telsa's own Twitter account.

 

[TMThree]

You make me laugh. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration isn't hyping Tesla because they give a crap about how well it does.

Marketing hype comes from the company, not a government agency. And yet you're claiming don't buy the hype while quoting a company rep.

And I'm an attorney

LOL. Totally irrelevant factoid tossed in there to do what? Doesn't help your argument any. Case dismissed.

 

[ShockOnT]

You (assume single male) walk into a bar, to your right is a really pretty girl, left a really practical one....... Where do you go next

"Practical" means "useful for intended purpose".
I've given up "pretty" for this many times

 

[Downtown]

You might consider an inventory 100d if price is a concern. It would have 335 miles of rated range instead of 370, but could be much less money to make the switch. Not sure what color or specs you are looking for but here is a new one for $72k before incentives.
2018 Model S | Tesla

I haven’t kept up with pricing changes since buying in mid-2018 but this seems like a good deal. Appear to be saving $16k when compared to new long range model and as noted difference is 335 vs 370 mi. Will look for inventory / model change deals one day when I sell my Black Beauty.

 

[Compton]

LOL. Totally irrelevant factoid tossed in there to do what? Doesn't help your argument any. Case dismissed.

You missed the point, he meant that one doesn't need to be a physicist to understand the value of sheer mass in a collision [with a movable object]. Case in point.

 

[abasile]

The cargo capacity of the Model S is really great, and it's definitely an advantage over the Model 3. Yesterday evening, I picked up a full-sized, pre-hung metal screen door at Lowe's and it completely fit in the back of our Model S. On camping trips, the Model S has room for our whole family's gear and everyone is comfortable.

The Model Y should roughly match the early Model S in terms of cargo capacity, though it'll have less range than a new Model S with a 100 kWh battery. You could also consider keeping your Model 3 for the next couple of years until the Model Y is available. Note that the $2500 pre-order deposit for the Model Y is refundable.

 

[TMThree]

And I'm an attorney

You missed the point, he meant that one doesn't need to be a physicist to understand the value of sheer mass in a collision [with a movable object]. Case in point.

No, I got it. That's why Musk is telling everyone to full their (t|f)runks up with concrete, to increase mass. Or just get a Hummer.

Joking aside, that's actually how people justify buying SUVs despite the roll over risk (Obviously doesn't apply to the X since it is good at not tipping over)

 

[croman]

No, I got it. That's why Musk is telling everyone to full their (t|f)runks up with concrete, to increase mass. Or just get a Hummer.

Joking aside, that's actually how people justify buying SUVs despite the roll over risk (Obviously doesn't apply to the X since it is good at not tipping over)

Very dense. Boyle's law (hot gases).

 

[Galinette]

And by the way, a heavier EV car doesn't consume more kWh per mile. It needs more power to get speed, but will give back more power when slowing down with regen... The biggest energy consumer in an EV is aerodynamic drag, which has nothing to do with mass. The second biggest is air conditioning, which has nothing to do with mass. Only a few percent of energy loss increases with mass (tire friction, etc...).

So basically, what explains the lower Wh/mile on a 3 is lower drag, because it's a smaller car. I'm at 322 Wh/km on my S100D, I believe the new model S is at about 290Wh/mile. The 3 is not much below this.

 

[Mike Robinson]

Hey everyone!
Have had my Model 3 for a few months now, and besides a few QC issues hoping to get fixed soon, have really enjoyed my car. However, I have hit a bit of a speed bump that has me considering selling for the new 370 mile S and would love to hear some thoughts.
My main reasons for thinking of switching is the longer range but mainly the hatchback. I travel for work across multiple states and for only two people, we have to pack a lot of luggage and gear. Trying to pull large suitcases in and out of the trunk has already gotten a bit old, and we fill it completely as well as a good bit of the back seat. Do we make it work, yeah. But does doing this for years sound fun in my head, not really. The S wasn't even on my radar when I bought my 3 so I didn't even think about it then.
For range and charging, its definitely a bonus getting that extra bit (if the new EPA is actually true). I live in an apartment so I can only charge with the 120V outlet in my garage, but when home I don't drive much as I work from home when not traveling and I have never had an issue with charging the 3 in there. I heard the S only get 4 miles an hour max on 120V vs the 5 that the 3 gets, but it is what it is.

TLDR; I would love to hear the thoughts of someone that owns or has owned both cars and their opinion between them. Does any situation merit looking at switching, or am I better off with keeping my 3 for a while. It has about 4,000 miles on it now.

I think you’ll really appreciate the extra room and better highway ride with the Model S

 

[Munka]

So the mass argument on the S vs 3 is that while the total risk of fatality overall is less on the 3 including those inside and outside the car. The weight of the S is an advantage to those inside and a downside to those outside. Buying selfishly an S and 3 are similar.

The other disadvantage of weight is in a rollover where the S has more weight on top of you when you are upside down. However the S is one of the hardest cars on the market to make roll in the first place so many owners are happy to ignore that.

Let's be fair we are talk about number 1 vs number 2. You are much safer in either that any ice car. But many would still prefer be in the S in a head on with a 3.

 

[aerodyne]

Back to the OP question...one opinion was:

"If you can afford it, go for it"

Most folks don't save enough. If you have a good plan for the future and a Monte Carlo analysis shows you are on track, great. If not, really rethink your needs. The M3 is an awesome, desireable car.

I have driven both cars and like the MS better for cruising.

You will take quite a bath on selling any newer car. It will make it much harder to buy a Roadster, lol.

Here is a thought, for those long trips, add a trailer hitch and a cargo carrier. If this is will allay the cargo concern, you can keep your M3....and save...for retirement or whatever.