Model 3 on the Nurburgring vs. Taycan

[Mash]

Ah but how much for an all electric lap at sub 8 minutes?

I don't know, Misha said he will buy one for himself. Maybe he will use it as a taxi as well

But gt2rs mr is 450K$ production car record holder and for 350$ it will be driven by somebody who actually can do that 6:40 time. They can't return car initial and maintenance cost - it's used for marketing purposes, so it's a steal price.

VW ID.R electric prototype spent 25kWh on the Ring - roughly the same as Misha spent with my car, but they made 6:05 time with 0.5x weight, 1.3x power, 2.5x corner acceleration from a much higher downforce. With gearbox it probably can beat absolute record of 5:19. But you can't ride it - single seater.

Another fun fact about the Ring - since it's a public road you can only use dot tires, it's prohibited to race and helmets are not required.

 

[holmgang]

But gt2rs mr is 450K$ production car record holder and for 350$ it will be driven by somebody who actually can do that 6:40 time. They can't return car initial and maintenance cost - it's used for marketing purposes, so it's a steal price.

well, the tax deduction on the vehicle probably doesnt hurt

 

[Mash]

Springs are too soft for Misha and no seat belts is uncomfortable for me at 1.6g. Rest of photos are here racetracker.de - weitere Bilder zu Bild Nummer: 10544193

Mud flaps do not survive it well.

Video is still preparing.

 

[holmgang]

Misha hasn't moved to croatia to work for rimac?

 

[Mash]

Misha hasn't moved to croatia to work for rimac?

He is traveling there and back as far as I understand.

 

[dsgerbc]

I have 107mm clearance and we were scrapping bottom and tires were touching arms.

This seems like an extremely risky thing to do a at the Ring..

 

[Mash]

This seems like an extremely risky thing to do a at the Ring..

The whole thing that Misha did was feeling extremely risky.
I checked later - arms and wheel arches were untouched, only mud flaps and my soul.

 

[Mash]

Looks like UPP sway bar bushings at the front got broken again. Checked everything else, but any smal bumps now make a lot of small thuds even louder than before

It's not yet the fact, but it will be really sad if stock sway bar will be silent.

Video still preparing.

 

[Mash]

Updated photos, thanks to Signature Wheels.

 

[MountainPass]

Yes!!!!!!

 

[Mash]

Looks like UPP sway bar bushings at the front got broken again. Checked everything else, but any smal bumps now make a lot of small thuds even louder than before

It's not yet the fact, but it will be really sad if stock sway bar will be silent.

Video still preparing.

Change back to stock sway bar - its not about it. Something else. No idea now...

 

[Dangerous Fish]

Another Model 3 on the 'Ring:

 

[wenkan]

Seems Vittel just uploaded a round 2 video, but I cannot view it. What happened to WMG things?

 

[Mash]

Another Model 3 on the 'Ring:

Tires, brake, cooling - everything is dead half way. It's just painful to watch.

He is not slow, not Misha level aggressive, but that ends up this way if you really push it.

 

[MasterC17]

Tires, brake, cooling - everything is dead half way. It's just painful to watch.

He is not slow, not Misha level aggressive, but that ends up this way if you really push it.

Is your video up?

 

[Mash]

Is your video up?

I will post it here as soon as Misha will upload it. I should have 360 video as well, but it's not playing in windows insta360 studio (was working on the phone), need to check why.

 

[Mash]

Found out what was banging at the left side after the Ring. It wasnt sway bar which I've changed back to stock. But it was RB floating brake disc which got all bolts loosen. They were all torqued to 9 lbft before and this time they all started to rotate at 4. That fixed an issue, but I think I have more and more reason to abandon those brakes.

They did survive beating with 0 regen, but botls backing off from special patented lock nuts just like that??

 

[MasterC17]

Found out what was banging at the left side after the Ring. It wasnt sway bar which I've changed back to stock. But it was RB floating brake disc which got all bolts loosen. They were all torqued to 9 lbft before and this time they all started to rotate at 4. That fixed an issue, but I think I have more and more reason to abandon those brakes.

They did survive beating with 0 regen, but botls backing off from special patented lock nuts just like that??

I installed these today. Pretty sure they won't have that problem.

 

[Mash]

I installed these today. Pretty sure they won't have that problem.

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Wait a minute... What happened with AP?

 

[wenkan]

Misha is crazy. He said no need helmet since he won't run it fast. Video will be later. Based on stopwatch we made below 8 minutes.

RB 6 pot survived whole track. We had no yellow flags, so it was proper trashing of car. It took 1/3 of XT970 pads - they held well, but they clearly not high temp ones. Unfortunately we did not do any cooling run afterwards and SRF fluid boiled while we were standing for the next lap. I cut 3/4 of heat shields on brake rotors.

We made hot lap with 0 regen -10 stability 70-30 split. Tires warmed up from 28 psi up to 37 psi, so 275 is not large enough for CUP2 on the ring. At last 20% grip was going down.

I have 107mm clearance and we were scrapping bottom and tires were touching arms.

Motors and invertors didn't overheat. Unfortunately I think I don't have logs since I forgot to push start on a track mode

Battery overheated at 80% of the lap. That one lap was 90->50% battery charge. This is not Sebastian video lap where he spent only 20% per lap. Much later than stock.

Turning off regen 100% works.

But to run out whole battery non stop we need to rework active shutter box radiators. Brake pads must be high temp and fluid will be boiled SRF or not - need to make brake scoops or ducts.

MPP/KW springs are too soft for CUP2 tires, should be like 120-140 kg, but it will be harsh for the road.

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Seems we have the video now...

3:16 bridge, 11:30 gantry. Still yet to break 8 minutes.

Also want to know which 4 point harness you are using.