TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC

Model 3 or Model X?

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by sleepnclass, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. sleepnclass

    sleepnclass Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    28
    Location:
    Chicago
    So I know that they aren’t even close to the same ‘market’ but hear me out. I want to try a long range electric vehicle and Tesla is the only one that has my interest. I love the brand and Tesla’s mission.

    The 3 is appealing because of price ~$60k versus ~$120k. I’d buy either pretty loaded, I want range and I don’t like having missing features on cars. Like how old Toyota’s and fords would fill voids with coin holders where features would’ve gone. I know Tesla doesn’t do this but you get what I’m trying to say. My only concern with the Model 3 is size. Is it about the size of a focus? I live near Chicago so I can’t test drive one yet to my knowledge and the only one they have in showrooms is in the city. Was wondering if anyone else was trying to decide between a 3 and a X or a 3 and a S and what they ultimately chose and why?
     
    • Like x 1
  2. noahwr

    noahwr New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2018
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    winnipeg
    I think it's dependent on how you are going to use it and your disposable income.
    Need cargo space? Need longer range? Just city driving?
     
  3. D3xDt3Reaction

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2017
    Messages:
    253
    Location:
    Arizona
    Maybe check out Tesla Model 3 Exterior Dimensions Comparison - Data & Analysis. The 3 is closer to the size of a BMW 3 or Audi A4.

    We have a 2017 S now and have driven an X loaner. Haven’t driven a 3 but have sat in one and am on the wait list. Some random thoughts:

    S - love driving it, great cruiser car, more posh and comfy than the 3 but ultimately about the same amount of headroom and legroom, wider than the 3 but sometimes feels like a big car when parking, late model seats are better than older versions by far
    X - falcon wing doors are amazing, nice to have the door open itself but worry about complexity and parts breaking, wouldn’t get the 5-seat version, less roomy than I might have anticipated, awesome pano view out the windshield
    3 - might miss the secondary display for nav and the split display on the screen, but great range and bang for the buck, minimalist, expect it to feel sportier, A/C is gimmicky but cool
     
    • Informative x 1
    • Like x 1
  4. Scrith

    Scrith Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2015
    Messages:
    171
    Location:
    Redwood City, CA
    I’ve got both. I prefer my Model 3 by quite a bit. I’m 6’8” and more comfortable in the 3, btw (due to the relatively low ceiling in the X, which isn’t really evident unless you put the front seat back a bit more than halfway).
     
    • Informative x 1
  5. P85_DA

    P85_DA Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2015
    Messages:
    2,546
    Location:
    Chula Vista, CA
    Go with X ...once you go electric you will drive a lot and the 3 just doesn’t cut it with the plain interior
     
  6. MXWing

    MXWing Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2016
    Messages:
    3,721
    Location:
    USA
    I think you will be happiest with an S.

    You get all the bells and whistles and don't have to spend 120K either. X gets less range than the S and is slower for the same battery pack because its heavier.

    I think having a X and a 3 is optimal for dual Tesla families. But unless you plan for that kind of setup, S is a good middle ground for a first Tesla.

    Main caveat of an S over a 3 is the price but that's not the only factor so you are good there.
     
    • Like x 1
  7. ChadS

    ChadS Petroleum is for sissies

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2009
    Messages:
    2,805
    #7 ChadS, Jun 14, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2018
    We have a 3, S and X. I pretty much agree with D3xDt3Reaction above on comparing the cars, and with MXWing on how what you pick depends on how many you have.

    Obviously there are some things that might force some people in to one or another. Price may force some to a 3, a need to haul children or elderly parents might force some to an X, etc. But it sounds like you think you could live with any one of them. Cool.

    If I could only have one, it would probably be the S. Much more cargo space than the 3 (and quicker and a slightly cushier ride), but still cheaper, more efficient, more reliable, quicker and with better range than the X. And given that you like to have all the options, there are more options available than on the 3 (ludicrous, air suspension, biohazard mode, etc). The X does have a couple of extra cool tricks, though they are not compelling to us - we mostly got it for our elderly parents.

    It turns out I can have two. (Having three is only temporary, until the S lease expires). As MXWing said, we are really happy with a combo of the 3 and the X. The 3 is the cheapest, best value, most efficient, easiest to park and wash, and has the most responsive handling. It has almost identical passenger space to the S except shoulder room for the 5th seat (which is also very similar to the X, aside from head room. I am neglecting the 3rd row, which you apparently don't need). It will be our general commuter and daily driver, and we expect to put most of the miles on it. I definitely appreciate driving a smaller car (I miss my Roadster).

    However, the X is really handy in a lot of situations where the 3 might not work well (the S would be almost as good at these and has other advantages; though the 3 is even better at handling and price so an X makes sense over an S for these given that we also have a 3):
    • if we go to a rough trailhead and can use the extra ground clearance
    • if we are driving our elderly parents somewhere, it is easier for them to get in to the X, and handy to be able to open/close all doors remotely
    • if we are going to drive in snow (AWD wasn't available when we ordered our 3, but the X has it)
    • if we have to haul something that won't fit in the 3 (that is rarely anything other than my wife's bike, but she does carry that around a lot. Of course we could get a hitch for the 3, but she likes to keep it inside the vehicle)
    • when my wife goes on her annual 10-day girls' camping trip, the X will carry all of her stuff, and allow her to easily sleep in it if weather gets bad (she wouldn't like that in the 3)
    • I guess it will be most comfy if we have 5 passengers, though that will be really rare for us
    Having two Teslas and being able to pick the right tool is obviously the best of all worlds, if you can swing it.

    BTW, we got cloth seats and skipped the 3rd row seats and premium and performance packages on our X, and don't miss them at all. At least, not on that car, which has a nicer base sound system and just seems too big (and has too much tail wag) to use really heavy acceleration. Our S has Ludicrous and I WILL miss that when it is gone and I am driving the 3, but for people that haven't bought yet the 3 now has a Performance option that should be adequate for most.
     
    • Like x 4
    • Informative x 1
  8. MXWing

    MXWing Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2016
    Messages:
    3,721
    Location:
    USA
    ^^^^^^ - yeah I can no longer contribute useful information here that @ChadS didnt cover.
     
    • Funny x 1
  9. sleepnclass

    sleepnclass Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    28
    Location:
    Chicago
    I don’t like the S. I don’t know why, I think it just looks dated I guess.
     
    • Like x 1
  10. P85_DA

    P85_DA Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2015
    Messages:
    2,546
    Location:
    Chula Vista, CA
    Get the X ...get the X ...:D
     
  11. Krugerrand

    Krugerrand Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    6,649
    Location:
    California
    The S is a most excellent vehicle but I too feel it’s dated (inside) (and too pretentious for my tastes). It is a big, boat feeling car after driving a 3 for just a few seconds. The S does have a ridiculous amount of cargo space.

    3 vs X is like should I have a double hot fudge sundae or a 12 course meal; depends if I want to treat myself to a sugar rush or I want to not have to eat for the next 4 days. I chose double hot fudge sundae. Duh!
     
  12. Nilnoc

    Nilnoc Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2018
    Messages:
    150
    Location:
    Frederick, Maryland
    Lots of good info here. I chose X over S for three reasons.

    1. Cost differential was under $5k for 100D configurations.
    2. Wanted absolute max carrying and towing capacity.
    3. Being older and long waisted, way easier ingress and egress with X.

    Now that I have my Model X, with PUP, I have to say:

    1.Self-presenting driver’s door has never hit anything in close quarters.
    2. Self-presenting driver’s door never gets old.
    3. Audio is awesome.
    4. Heated steering wheel is something I’ve always wanted.
    5. Bio weapon filter has been used to good effect.

    Finally, grandkids just adore this car.
     
    • Like x 1
  13. P85_DA

    P85_DA Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2015
    Messages:
    2,546
    Location:
    Chula Vista, CA
    Agree with @Nilnoc ....although I have never used 4 or 5 :oops:
     
  14. CTreast

    CTreast Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2016
    Messages:
    75
    Location:
    Georgia
    I love my 3. But I'd sell a kidney for an X (although they'd probably want both). For me the only thing keeping me out of an S or X is price. I would go for the X. With space, I'd rather have it and not need it
     
    • Love x 1
  15. Regenshire

    Regenshire Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2016
    Messages:
    37
    Location:
    Spokane, WA
    If cost wasn't a factor I would get a 6 seat Model X. Its a very comfortable vehicle. It just feels more roomy, and there are a lot of nice features like the Windshield.
     
    • Like x 1
    • Love x 1
  16. EV-lutioin

    EV-lutioin Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    1,809
    Location:
    California
    We own both a Model X and Model 3 and I find myself choosing the 3 over the X on a daily basis. Don't get me wrong, I love the X... it's probably the best car on Earth, but the 3 is nimble and fun and so efficient. I thought I would use the MX on road trips, but once again, I'm choosing the 3 because it's efficiency allows us to charge much less often and it's just a bad-ass awesome car. I'm told by my 6' son that the backseat is way more comfy in the MX, so if you will have large humans in the back seat that is something to consider. As far as cargo, I find the 3 to have ample space for any trip we take, including camping, so no issue there. Interestingly, since we have a six seater MX, we can't sleep in it, but the 3 has plenty of space for two adults to sleep in the car. If you get the MX, definitely go with the 100 kWh battery pack, we have the 90 kWh and on road trips we wish we had more range.
     
    • Informative x 2
    • Like x 1
  17. swhang

    swhang Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2017
    Messages:
    40
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    Or you can get a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. It's not a Tesla, but has a lot of what you're looking for. Plenty of room, ground clearance, and can use gasoline when going on long trips.... All for less than 40k.
     
    • Like x 1
  18. DannyHamilton

    DannyHamilton Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2018
    Messages:
    44
    Location:
    Minooka
    Have you made your decision yet? If not, I'm in the Chicagoland area and would be happy to let you take my Model 3 for a drive so you can make a more informed decision.
     
    • Like x 1
  19. Tummy

    Tummy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2016
    Messages:
    86
    Location:
    Atlanta
    If you are ok with an inventory car, I've seen a couple deals lately for loaded X 100D for about $16k off, plus the tax incentive. That makes the price gap slightly more palatable.
     
  20. ℬête Noire

    ℬête Noire Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2018
    Messages:
    2,233
    Location:
    TX
    These are showroom floor models?
     

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC