Model 3 performance new 18 inch wheel option now avail 7/15/19

[WilliamG]

No, the difference in stopping distances between the two different configurations are all due to the tires, not the brakes. If you replace the all-season radials the Stealth P3D comes equipped with, with the sport tires supplied with the P3D with performance upgrade, you will get the same stopping distances.

Why do we need to keep re-hashing this?

Still supports the point that the tires and brakes = unimpressive.

 

[Jwalker9]

I also picked up my new model 3 stealth today, but I am not seeing track mode. When I left, the service center man said the software would update overnight?
My question is, all of the “about my tesla” info doesn’t say anything about the performance software currently. Is there a way to actually verify you have it without timing your 0-60?

 

[StealthP3D]

Still supports the point that the tires and brakes = unimpressive.

I was responding specifically to your continued claim that the upgraded brakes will stop the car faster in an emergency than the standard brakes. That claim has been thoroughly debunked right here. It's false.

However, if what you're worried about is that you convinced your significant other it was OK to spend $5000 extra on the Performance Upgrade package because the brakes would stop faster in an emergency and your family was worth the extra money, no worries, I'm not going to tell her you were wrong or that you could have saved thousands of dollars by simply upgrading to Performance tires. It can be our little secret.

 

[Ultron]

And let me say as a Performance owner that saved 1.2 seconds will put a HUGE smile on your face every time you punch it.

 

[StealthP3D]

I also picked up my new model 3 stealth today, but I am not seeing track mode. When I left, the service center man said the software would update overnight?
My question is, all of the “about my tesla” info doesn’t say anything about the performance software currently. Is there a way to actually verify you have it without timing your 0-60?

He might mean the performance software will be installed overnight. When you get the Performance software installed, you will know it because the "Dual Motor" on the main screen will have a red line under it.

Congrats on your new Stealth P3D!

 

[Jwalker9]

He might mean the performance software will be installed overnight. When you get the Performance software installed, you will know it because the "Dual Motor" on the main screen will have a red line under it.

Congrats on your new Stealth P3D!

Thanks for the heads up! I hope it’s there when I wake up in the morning!
I punched it once today and while it seemed extremely fast, felt more like 4.5 secs than 3.2, although I wasn’t timing.

 

[StealthP3D]

Thanks for the heads up! I hope it’s there when I wake up in the morning!
I punched it once today and while it seemed extremely fast, felt more like 4.5 secs than 3.2, although I wasn’t timing.

Make sure you park it where it has a decent cell signal and/or connected WiFi. Probably not an issue but just a heads up in case you live in a rural area with sketchy signals.

 

[AndrewAllen]

Thanks for the heads up! I hope it’s there when I wake up in the morning!
I punched it once today and while it seemed extremely fast, felt more like 4.5 secs than 3.2, although I wasn’t timing.

Please update us in the morning.

 

[adam0785]

Heh. I have no real idea of course. I just don’t know why Elon would bring it up if it weren’t true

Lol you can't be serious.....Money!!!

 

[StealthP3D]

True to form, @Knightshade wisely taking the position that could eventually be proven correct (if upgrades of AWD to P3D are sold) but can likely never be proven wrong. Good strategy.

The only other possibility is that the binning of parts were so successful that over 90% met the specs for performance. Or it could be higher than that. In any case, there could be a very small percentage of AWD out there that don't meet the spec for Performance. Rather than put the parts that tested to a lower spec in the recycle bin, they mark them so they can never be used for a Performance conversion (from AWD to Performance). They don't want to give this 1-10 % of the parts a different part number (because then some AWD owners would feel short-changed), they just need to ensure they never flash those into Performance versions. This explains why all part numbers are the same (didn't want to piss off those AWD owners who got the lower spec parts).

If this possibility is the correct interpretation, then Tesla will never offer AWD to Performance upgrades to people who already own AWD's (because they wouldn't be able to offer the upgrade to every AWD owner and this would not be fair to those who received the lower binned components). But they can flash most new/unsold AWD's into Performance because they will only do if the AWD is not on the list disqualifying them from being a Performance spec Model 3. This way Tesla doesn't have to throw away parts that would heat up too much with the additional current of a Performance spec Model 3 running through them (because they will work reliably at lower current levels). Such is the nature of manufactured power electronics.

 

[StealthP3D]

Mine asked for the price initially, never a window sticker though.

That's all my insurance company wanted, the VIN# and the price. I doubt they even know it's a Stealth P3D.

 

[StealthP3D]

I'm not even asking for top speed to be increased above 140, I don't hit 140 more than once or twice a week normally.

What, do you live in an area with a lot of traffic congestion?

 

[mact3333]

Not saying there isn’t value, but ... the pedal covers are probably less than $1 manufacturing cost. The wheels, maybe a bit more to manufacture than the 18’s. Tires, again, maybe they pay Michelin $10/ea more than an 18?

Sure the brake calipers are more beefy. Maybe $25/ea more (so $50) to Brembo?

The most expensive part, by far, is the carbon fiber spoiler.

So let’s say that all in, physical parts cost Tesla ... $500? Even if I miss the mark by half, $1000?

Not bad for a $5k upsell.

You do realize that a Brembo BBK costs like 6-7K for front and rears right???...no way the spoiler is the most expensive part...that can be made for a 100 bucks tops...calipers and rotors are very spendy...lowering springs 400-500.00...wheels 3-5K...tires 1200.00

 

[Daniel in SD]

You do realize that a Brembo BBK costs like 6-7K for front and rears right???...no way the spoiler is the most expensive part...that can be made for a 100 bucks tops...calipers and rotors are very spendy...lowering springs 400-500.00...wheels 3-5K...tires 1200.00

The regular car already has Brembo brakes, springs, tires, and wheels. The question is how much more the upgraded parts cost Tesla. My bet is quite a bit less than a thousand dollars.

 

[mact3333]

there is a reason why the p3D costs so much more...I have essentially converted my LR AWD into the flip version of the p3d-(meaning I have upgraded everything but software)...the delta on tires and wheels alone has to be more than a 1000.00 easy...I paid 1450.00 for my 20 inch tires Michelin P4s just like stock p3d...my 20 inch wheels were 3000.00 which is less than the 4-5 K tesla charges for their 20 inch wheels...I bought OEM perf brakes front and rear for 4000.00...you'd be lucky to be able to sell the the non-perf brakes for 1500.00.

The delta is larger than people realize and yes I am taking into account volume and wholesale pricing for tesla for tires, wheels and springs.

If Tesla was smart, they should sell the software cause that's where they would make the most money cause they don't have to buy any parts or create anything, its all software thats already been written...like a 20 minute download....free money for them.

 

[JTesmod3]

Was just on the site, although you can see the 18's you cannot choose them as a option. It also no longer says 18s are available upon request

 

[WilliamG]

Was just on the site, although you can see the 18's you cannot choose them as a option. It also no longer says 18s are available upon request

I suspect the site is updating. Before now you didn’t even see the wheels listed. Tesla is likely streamlining the process so I expect the 18” option will go live sooner rather than later so they don’t need to keep fielding calls.

 

[Schroeder0202]

Was just on the site, although you can see the 18's you cannot choose them as a option. It also no longer says 18s are available upon request

Hopefully they are making it a actual menu item due the large amount of new sales they have brought in by a simple note. Would only make it easier for people to order a car which is the ultimate goal for them.

 

[dmurphy]

The regular car already has Brembo brakes, springs, tires, and wheels. The question is how much more the upgraded parts cost Tesla. My bet is quite a bit less than a thousand dollars.

... exactly. There’s already embedded cost for the parts on non-P vehicles - which, by the way, aren’t exactly cheap parts either. As you said, they’re high quality Brembo calipers already. The P Model is just beefier. Likely not a huge increase in cost, especially at OEM price and volume. Retail cost for, say, the 20” rims never enters the equation ...

 

[TJ73]

I paid 1450.00 for my 20 inch tires Michelin P4s just like stock p3d...my 20 inch wheels were 3000.00 which is less than the 4-5 K tesla charges for their 20 inch wheels...

But.....Tesla's online shop sells the 20" wheels with Pilots mounted/balanced with TPMS, shipped & and installed at your service center for $4k?