Since I ordered (and now received) my M3P I have been concerned about the switch from the Panasonic 82Kwh 3C batteries that have been used in the M3P up until Q2 2022, to the LG 5C 79Kwh battery. I have researched a fair bit about this newer LG battery and know it is capable of less power output due to higher internal resistance.
Having got my M3P i'm more than impressed by the 0-60 performance, which is fantastic.....however I am less impressed at the performance at higher speeds, especially as you go above 80mph where the torque seems to fall off quite dramatically. Now I knew this was the case with all Model 3's however it seemed noticeably worse than what I felt when I drove a 2021 M3P.
Today i performed some high speed pulls with a dragy, on a perfectly flat road in dry conditions - and measured the 100-200kmh (62-124mph) time....and even though it's pretty quick it is a LOT down on what the previous 2021 M3P can do, and even worse is that it's slower than a LR model that was made in the US or some EU models that had the Pan battery (or a capped 75Kwh version of it), and that's even without acceleration boost.
This is my best 100-200km/h time, with 85% SOC, fully warmed up battery, 12c ambient (I did 5 runs and they were all around 11.2s)
Now 2021 / Q1 2022 M3P's and even LR models with the pan battery (some EU bound models and all US models) produce times sub 10 seconds on the 100-200km/h :
That was from the video below of a Q1 2022 M3P - the last to use the 82 kWh Pan battery. This is an EU MIC model, not US (although same battery)...1.4 seconds faster than what my LG based M3 can do!
Car was stock with 20" uberturbines (although all season tyres)
What's even more crazy is that at 40% SOC the Pan based models look to be pulling better times than an LG at any SOC:
The guys over the German TTF forum have also found the Pan model easily pulls away from the LG model, at speed:
(use google translate to read this thread, but the pics further down show it pulling away)
The 0-60mph is pretty much the same, I can pull 3.3s (3.1s with 1 ft rollout) just as specified and pretty much the same as a pan model (although they do it at anything above 70% SOC where the LG needs 85-90% to pull a 3.3s 0-60).
In short, the LG based model 3's are noticeably down on power at the higher speeds, the power difference starts pretty much as you get to 70mph and increases further the faster you go.
I love the car but it is a bit of a kick in the teeth that they are down so much on power at the upper end - not so much a problem for normal public road (legal) driving but on the track you will feel and notice that for sure.
Having got my M3P i'm more than impressed by the 0-60 performance, which is fantastic.....however I am less impressed at the performance at higher speeds, especially as you go above 80mph where the torque seems to fall off quite dramatically. Now I knew this was the case with all Model 3's however it seemed noticeably worse than what I felt when I drove a 2021 M3P.
Today i performed some high speed pulls with a dragy, on a perfectly flat road in dry conditions - and measured the 100-200kmh (62-124mph) time....and even though it's pretty quick it is a LOT down on what the previous 2021 M3P can do, and even worse is that it's slower than a LR model that was made in the US or some EU models that had the Pan battery (or a capped 75Kwh version of it), and that's even without acceleration boost.
This is my best 100-200km/h time, with 85% SOC, fully warmed up battery, 12c ambient (I did 5 runs and they were all around 11.2s)
Now 2021 / Q1 2022 M3P's and even LR models with the pan battery (some EU bound models and all US models) produce times sub 10 seconds on the 100-200km/h :
That was from the video below of a Q1 2022 M3P - the last to use the 82 kWh Pan battery. This is an EU MIC model, not US (although same battery)...1.4 seconds faster than what my LG based M3 can do!
Car was stock with 20" uberturbines (although all season tyres)
What's even more crazy is that at 40% SOC the Pan based models look to be pulling better times than an LG at any SOC:
The guys over the German TTF forum have also found the Pan model easily pulls away from the LG model, at speed:
Model 3 Performance 2022 - Panasonic vs. LG
Dieser erste Beitrag wird stetig um neue Daten und Erkenntnisse erweitert. Hintergrund Das Model 3 Performance 2022 wurde beim Wechsel von Quartal 1 auf Quartal 2 signifikant verändert! Der in Q4/2020 eingeführte Panasonic 3L 82kWh NCA Akku wurde durch den in Q4/2021 eingeführten LG Chem...
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The 0-60mph is pretty much the same, I can pull 3.3s (3.1s with 1 ft rollout) just as specified and pretty much the same as a pan model (although they do it at anything above 70% SOC where the LG needs 85-90% to pull a 3.3s 0-60).
In short, the LG based model 3's are noticeably down on power at the higher speeds, the power difference starts pretty much as you get to 70mph and increases further the faster you go.
I love the car but it is a bit of a kick in the teeth that they are down so much on power at the upper end - not so much a problem for normal public road (legal) driving but on the track you will feel and notice that for sure.