Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

[muhsec]

ser	exterior	interior	autopilot	collection	order date	delivery estimate	vin
Mac2022	black	black		NI	13/12/2021
Snoopcat	blue	black			Jan	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5649
M3P75	blue	black	AP	Bluewater	10/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5650
roundexplosion	silver	white		Bristol	12/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5617
delta0	silver	black	AP	Staines	14/02/2022	23/06/2022	5733
sc20	white	white	AP	Staines	Mid Feb	24/06/2022	5613
craigp	white	white	AP	Birmingham	20/02/2022	15/06/2022 - 29/06/2022	5704
Antlers1968	silver	black	AP		21/02/2022	20/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
Kevmar123	red	black			23/02/2022	31/05/2022 - 28/06/2022
SlavaK	black	black	AP	Glasgow	04/03/2022	'May 2022'
muhsec	silver	black	AP		04/03/2022	Was May now nothing (lease)
seadog	white	black	AP	Glasgow	15/03/2022	'May 2022'
thestarkfactor	blue	white	EAP	Glasgow	16/03/2022	Was June (now missing)
JemFP2	black	black	AP	Bristol	16/03/2022	19/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
kevincredible	black	white		Thorpe Park	17/03/2022	‘May 2022’
WhosAsking	blue	black	AP	Southampton	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
mnijjM3P	red	white	AP	Birmingham	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
trouter	silver	black			26/03/2022	'May 2022'
MThreeOwner	white	white	FSD	Staines	28/03/2022	23/06/2022
Blower	black	black		Bristol	30/03/2022	'August 2022'
FrancoM82	white	white		Southampton	09/04/2022	‘August 2022’
Waser	black	white	AP	Bluewater	18/04/2022

Hi all, thought I'd add myself to this list. I ordered the car through my company car scheme in December 21 however the lease management company didn't actually place the order with Tesla until March. A long and frustrating story... Now hoping I'll hear something more positive soon!

 

[JemFP2]

Looks like my narrow date range has reverted to May 2022, which makes sense given other people around me, table updated...

user	exterior	interior	autopilot	collection	order date	delivery estimate	vin
Mac2022	black	black		NI	13/12/2021
Snoopcat	blue	black			Jan	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5649
M3P75	blue	black	AP	Bluewater	10/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5650
roundexplosion	silver	white		Bristol	12/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5617
delta0	silver	black	AP	Staines	14/02/2022	23/06/2022	5733
sc20	white	white	AP	Staines	Mid Feb	24/06/2022	5613
craigp	white	white	AP	Birmingham	20/02/2022	15/06/2022 - 29/06/2022	5704
Antlers1968	silver	black	AP		21/02/2022	20/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
Kevmar123	red	black			23/02/2022	31/05/2022 - 28/06/2022
SlavaK	black	black	AP	Glasgow	04/03/2022	'May 2022'
seadog	white	black	AP	Glasgow	15/03/2022	'May 2022'
thestarkfactor	blue	white	EAP	Glasgow	16/03/2022	Was June (now missing)
JemFP2	black	black	AP	Bristol	16/03/2022	'May 2022'
kevincredible	black	white		Thorpe Park	17/03/2022	‘May 2022’
WhosAsking	blue	black	AP	Southampton	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
mnijjM3P	red	white	AP	Birmingham	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
trouter	silver	black			26/03/2022	'May 2022'
MThreeOwner	white	white	FSD	Staines	28/03/2022	23/06/2022
Blower	black	black		Bristol	30/03/2022	'August 2022'
FrancoM82	white	white		Southampton	09/04/2022	‘August 2022’
Waser	black	white	AP	Bluewater	18/04/2022

 

[jewel thief]

Tonight mine changed to August

my inventory car again delayed today I picked up a loaner while I wait for the inventory car to be released it a 17 plate stinks of smoke and has 55k on it and was filthy I actually had it valeted

I hope the future is brighter

 

[sc20]

Tonight mine changed to August

my inventory car again delayed today I picked up a loaner while I wait for the inventory car to be released it a 17 plate stinks of smoke and has 55k on it and was filthy I actually had it valeted

I hope the future is brighter

So you're not actually a jewel thief with a new Bentley Continental GT?

 

[Dontastic]

Looks like my narrow date range has reverted to May 2022, which makes sense given other people around me, table updated...

user	exterior	interior	autopilot	collection	order date	delivery estimate	vin
Mac2022	black	black		NI	13/12/2021
Snoopcat	blue	black			Jan	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5649
M3P75	blue	black	AP	Bluewater	10/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5650
roundexplosion	silver	white		Bristol	12/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5617
delta0	silver	black	AP	Staines	14/02/2022	23/06/2022	5733
sc20	white	white	AP	Staines	Mid Feb	24/06/2022	5613
craigp	white	white	AP	Birmingham	20/02/2022	15/06/2022 - 29/06/2022	5704
Antlers1968	silver	black	AP		21/02/2022	20/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
Kevmar123	red	black			23/02/2022	31/05/2022 - 28/06/2022
SlavaK	black	black	AP	Glasgow	04/03/2022	'May 2022'
seadog	white	black	AP	Glasgow	15/03/2022	'May 2022'
thestarkfactor	blue	white	EAP	Glasgow	16/03/2022	Was June (now missing)
JemFP2	black	black	AP	Bristol	16/03/2022	'May 2022'
kevincredible	black	white		Thorpe Park	17/03/2022	‘May 2022’
WhosAsking	blue	black	AP	Southampton	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
mnijjM3P	red	white	AP	Birmingham	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
trouter	silver	black			26/03/2022	'May 2022'
MThreeOwner	white	white	FSD	Staines	28/03/2022	23/06/2022
Blower	black	black		Bristol	30/03/2022	'August 2022'
FrancoM82	white	white		Southampton	09/04/2022	‘August 2022’
Waser	black	white	AP	Bluewater	18/04/2022

Can't work out how to add my details :-( but they are Ext - blue, Int - black, AP, Glasgow (but Tusker lease so may be delivered), order date 8th March, Tusker website now saying Mid July after saying end of June for a few weeks.

 

[jewel thief]

So you're not actually a jewel thief with a new Bentley Continental GT?

Sold the GT beginning to regret that decision

now

 

[sc20]

Can't work out how to add my details :-( but they are Ext - blue, Int - black, AP, Glasgow (but Tusker lease so may be delivered), order date 8th March, Tusker website now saying Mid July after saying end of June for a few weeks.

Added it for you:

user	exterior	interior	autopilot	collection	order date	delivery estimate	vin
Mac2022	black	black		NI	13/12/2021
Snoopcat	blue	black			Jan	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5649
M3P75	blue	black	AP	Bluewater	10/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5650
roundexplosion	silver	white		Bristol	12/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5617
delta0	silver	black	AP	Staines	14/02/2022	23/06/2022	5733
sc20	white	white	AP	Staines	Mid Feb	24/06/2022	5613
craigp	white	white	AP	Birmingham	20/02/2022	15/06/2022 - 29/06/2022	5704
Antlers1968	silver	black	AP		21/02/2022	20/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
Kevmar123	red	black			23/02/2022	31/05/2022 - 28/06/2022
SlavaK	black	black	AP	Glasgow	04/03/2022	'May 2022'
Dontastic	blue	black	AP	Glasgow	08/03/2022	'Mid July'
seadog	white	black	AP	Glasgow	15/03/2022	'May 2022'
thestarkfactor	blue	white	EAP	Glasgow	16/03/2022	Was June (now missing)
JemFP2	black	black	AP	Bristol	16/03/2022	'May 2022'
kevincredible	black	white		Thorpe Park	17/03/2022	‘May 2022’
WhosAsking	blue	black	AP	Southampton	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
mnijjM3P	red	white	AP	Birmingham	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
trouter	silver	black			26/03/2022	'May 2022'
MThreeOwner	white	white	FSD	Staines	28/03/2022	23/06/2022
Blower	black	black		Bristol	30/03/2022	'August 2022'
FrancoM82	white	white		Southampton	09/04/2022	‘August 2022’
Waser	black	white	AP	Bluewater	18/04/2022

 

[sl48]

I ordered a mine early May with a sep-nov initial EDD, within a few days that updated to June 23-30th then June 19-30 all seemed too good to be true. Last night it has reverted to Sep-Nov. Im guessing the June delivery is not going to revert now

 

[sl48]

ser	exterior	interior	autopilot	collection	order date	delivery estimate	vin
Mac2022	black	black		NI	13/12/2021
Snoopcat	blue	black			Jan	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5649
M3P75	blue	black	AP	Bluewater	10/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5650
roundexplosion	silver	white		Bristol	12/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5617
delta0	silver	black	AP	Staines	14/02/2022	23/06/2022	5733
sc20	white	white	AP	Staines	Mid Feb	24/06/2022	5613
craigp	white	white	AP	Birmingham	20/02/2022	15/06/2022 - 29/06/2022	5704
Antlers1968	silver	black	AP		21/02/2022	20/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
Kevmar123	red	black			23/02/2022	31/05/2022 - 28/06/2022
SlavaK	black	black	AP	Glasgow	04/03/2022	'May 2022'
muhsec	silver	black	AP		04/03/2022	Was May now nothing (lease)
seadog	white	black	AP	Glasgow	15/03/2022	'May 2022'
thestarkfactor	blue	white	EAP	Glasgow	16/03/2022	Was June (now missing)
JemFP2	black	black	AP	Bristol	16/03/2022	19/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
kevincredible	black	white		Thorpe Park	17/03/2022	‘May 2022’
WhosAsking	blue	black	AP	Southampton	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
mnijjM3P	red	white	AP	Birmingham	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
trouter	silver	black			26/03/2022	'May 2022'
MThreeOwner	white	white	FSD	Staines	28/03/2022	23/06/2022
Blower	black	black		Bristol	30/03/2022	'August 2022'
FrancoM82	white	white		Southampton	09/04/2022	‘August 2022’
Waser	black	white	AP	Bluewater	18/04/2022
sl48	silver	black	AP	Southampton	13/05/2022	Was June 19- 30 now Sep - Nov

Also worked out how to add myself to the list

 

[prizos]

User	exterior	interior	autopilot	collection	order date	delivery estimate	vin
Mac2022	black	black		NI	13/12/2021
Snoopcat	blue	black			Jan	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5649
M3P75	blue	black	AP	Bluewater	10/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5650
roundexplosion	silver	white		Bristol	12/02/2022	10/06/2022 - 24/06/2022	5617
delta0	silver	black	AP	Staines	14/02/2022	23/06/2022	5733
sc20	white	white	AP	Staines	Mid Feb	24/06/2022	5613
craigp	white	white	AP	Birmingham	20/02/2022	15/06/2022 - 29/06/2022	5704
Antlers1968	silver	black	AP		21/02/2022	20/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
Kevmar123	red	black			23/02/2022	31/05/2022 - 28/06/2022
SlavaK	black	black	AP	Glasgow	04/03/2022	'May 2022'
muhsec	silver	black	AP		04/03/2022	Was May now nothing (lease)
seadog	white	black	AP	Glasgow	15/03/2022	'May 2022'
thestarkfactor	blue	white	EAP	Glasgow	16/03/2022	Was June (now missing)
JemFP2	black	black	AP	Bristol	16/03/2022	19/06/2022 - 30/06/2022
kevincredible	black	white		Thorpe Park	17/03/2022	‘May 2022’
WhosAsking	blue	black	AP	Southampton	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
mnijjM3P	red	white	AP	Birmingham	22/03/2022	'May 2022'
trouter	silver	black			26/03/2022	'May 2022'
MThreeOwner	white	white	FSD	Staines	28/03/2022	23/06/2022
Blower	black	black		Bristol	30/03/2022	'August 2022'
prizos	black	black		Newcastle	02/04/2022	'August 2022'
FrancoM82	white	white		Southampton	09/04/2022	‘August 2022’
Waser	black	white	AP	Bluewater	18/04/2022
sl48	silver	black	AP	Southampton	13/05/2022	Was June 19- 30 now Sep - Nov

Just adding my order to the list.

 

[blower]

Having been following the German forum (tff.de), the following has been confirmed with this batch of M3P's.
For those who have received VIN's / reconfirmed June delivery dates the cars will definitely have:

LG battery, 79Kwh (E5LD)
3D6 hairpin rear motor

This has been obtained from the COC's (certificate of conformity) which have been received by those in Germany who have VIN's for this batch of M3P's being shipped.

As previously discussed the LG battery offers less power (performance) than the Panasonic that's been used in the M3P up until this point.
The Panasonic puts out a capped 430kw total power from 70% to 100% SOC (hot battery, 50c). The LG puts out 390kw at 70% and peaks at 415kw at 100% SOC.

This effectively means maximum HP of the pan M3P is 576hp (70-100% SOC) and the LG M3P is 556HP (only at 100% SOC)
Both of these are on a hot battery temp of 50c, so best case scenario.

On a mid temp battery (30c), the disparity is reduced with 70%->100% SOC, resulting in 375->420KW (pan), and 365->405KW (LG)

The new higher output 3D6 motor offers no effective extra performance (as it's entirely battery limited), although it is slightly more efficient and gives better range in urban driving WLTP than previous model. Combined range is still lower on WLTP, due to slightly less battery capacity (79kwh vs 82kwh)

It's not all bad for the LG battery though - it appears to have less degradation than the Panasonic, at the very least it is much more stable and consistent on the BMS estimated range vs SOC. Tests at 10K km on a MYP with pan E3LD vs LG E5LD (same battery as now in M3P) show the estimated range has barely changed from new where as the Pan as dropped considerably....the Panasonic needs more 100% balancing charges to keep the total available capacity in check where the LG doesn't really care. Results are showing the LG as effectively ending up with same or slightly more effective capacity / real world range than the Panasonic after 10K km run in.

The LG is better (more output power available) at low SOC's (below 20%), especially when cold. The LG also has higher regen (85kw vs 75kw) and is more consistent with the regen power level.

 

[delta0]

Having been following the German forum (tff.de), the following has been confirmed with this batch of M3P's.
For those who have received VIN's / reconfirmed June delivery dates the cars will definitely have:

LG battery, 79Kwh (E5LD)
3D6 hairpin rear motor

This has been obtained from the COC's (certificate of conformity) which have been received by those in Germany who have VIN's for this batch of M3P's being shipped.

As previously discussed the LG battery offers less power (performance) than the Panasonic that's been used in the M3P up until this point.
The Panasonic puts out a capped 430kw total power from 70% to 100% SOC (hot battery, 50c). The LG puts out 390kw at 70% and peaks at 415kw at 100% SOC.

This effectively means maximum HP of the pan M3P is 576hp (70-100% SOC) and the LG M3P is 556HP (only at 100% SOC)
Both of these are on a hot battery temp of 50c, so best case scenario.

On a mid temp battery (30c), the disparity is reduced with 70%->100% SOC, resulting in 375->420KW (pan), and 365->405KW (LG)

The new higher output 3D6 motor offers no effective extra performance (as it's entirely battery limited), although it is slightly more efficient and gives better range in urban driving WLTP than previous model. Combined range is still lower on WLTP, due to slightly less battery capacity (79kwh vs 82kwh)

It's not all bad for the LG battery though - it appears to have less degradation than the Panasonic, at the very least it is much more stable and consistent on the BMS estimated range vs SOC. Tests at 10K km on a MYP with pan E3LD vs LG E5LD (same battery as now in M3P) show the estimated range has barely changed from new where as the Pan as dropped considerably....the Panasonic needs more 100% balancing charges to keep the total available capacity in check where the LG doesn't really care. Results are showing the LG as effectively ending up with same or slightly more effective capacity / real world range than the Panasonic after 10K km run in.

The LG is better (more output power available) at low SOC's (below 20%), especially when cold. The LG also has higher regen (85kw vs 75kw) and is more consistent with the regen power level.

We don’t have the latest on the LG battery. Let’s get the absolute latest on that before concluding anything. It would make zero sense to have a higher power motor with a lower power battery. It seems like either there has been confusion with the LG 5C battery which made an appearance on some vehicles or the use of out of date data.

 

[sc20]

the Panasonic needs more 100% balancing charges to keep the total available capacity in check where the LG doesn't really care

Does the LG care any less about charging to 100% than the Panasonic, or is it still bad for it to do so?

 

[greg249]

Having been following the German forum (tff.de), the following has been confirmed with this batch of M3P's.
For those who have received VIN's / reconfirmed June delivery dates the cars will definitely have:

LG battery, 79Kwh (E5LD)
3D6 hairpin rear motor

This has been obtained from the COC's (certificate of conformity) which have been received by those in Germany who have VIN's for this batch of M3P's being shipped.

As previously discussed the LG battery offers less power (performance) than the Panasonic that's been used in the M3P up until this point.
The Panasonic puts out a capped 430kw total power from 70% to 100% SOC (hot battery, 50c). The LG puts out 390kw at 70% and peaks at 415kw at 100% SOC.

This effectively means maximum HP of the pan M3P is 576hp (70-100% SOC) and the LG M3P is 556HP (only at 100% SOC)
Both of these are on a hot battery temp of 50c, so best case scenario.

On a mid temp battery (30c), the disparity is reduced with 70%->100% SOC, resulting in 375->420KW (pan), and 365->405KW (LG)

The new higher output 3D6 motor offers no effective extra performance (as it's entirely battery limited), although it is slightly more efficient and gives better range in urban driving WLTP than previous model. Combined range is still lower on WLTP, due to slightly less battery capacity (79kwh vs 82kwh)

It's not all bad for the LG battery though - it appears to have less degradation than the Panasonic, at the very least it is much more stable and consistent on the BMS estimated range vs SOC. Tests at 10K km on a MYP with pan E3LD vs LG E5LD (same battery as now in M3P) show the estimated range has barely changed from new where as the Pan as dropped considerably....the Panasonic needs more 100% balancing charges to keep the total available capacity in check where the LG doesn't really care. Results are showing the LG as effectively ending up with same or slightly more effective capacity / real world range than the Panasonic after 10K km run in.

The LG is better (more output power available) at low SOC's (below 20%), especially when cold. The LG also has higher regen (85kw vs 75kw) and is more consistent with the regen power level.

So are you saying that a Tesla Model 3 performance with a LG 5L battery will only do 3.1 seconds 0-60 at 100% soc. ?

Surely it will still do 3.1 seconds 0-60 at 80% soc etc for example. Tesla can't be advertising the model 3 performance doing 3.1 seconds 0-60 if it only does it at 100% soc then as soon as it goes to 99% SOC it will take longer.

 

[sc20]

So are you saying that a Tesla Model 3 performance with a LG 5L battery will only do 3.1 seconds 0-60 at 100% soc. ?

Surely it will still do 3.1 seconds 0-60 at 80% soc etc for example. Tesla can't be advertising the model 3 performance doing 3.1 seconds 0-60 if it only does it at 100% soc then as soon as it goes to 99% SOC it will take longer.

Also curious about this. With the range they explicitly decreased it on the product page from 352 to 340 miles as soon as the new battery even had a possibility of being delivered; we haven't seen any change to stated 0-60 times.

 

[blower]

We don’t have the latest on the LG battery. Let’s get the absolute latest on that before concluding anything. It would make zero sense to have a higher power motor with a lower power battery. It seems like either there has been confusion with the LG 5C battery which made an appearance on some vehicles or the use of out of date data.

I can't see why it would be any different to the MYP, same battery code, same drivetrain (exact same motors). Tesla were happy enough to put the 3D6 motor in the MYP with the E5LD LG battery, and i believe the reason for changing the motor in the M3P is purely down to economics - why produce 2 different motors when you can use the same one in both the MYP & M3P. It's just the successor to the 3D1.

Does the LG care any less about charging to 100% than the Panasonic, or is it still bad for it to do so?

Still not good to charge to 100% all the time, but it does look to be more tolerant than the Panasonics.

Since the power is down at lower SOC, I will be charging to 90% all the time (I was only going to do 80% most of the time, but that means the car will be barely any faster than a LR with boost)

 

[kevincredible]

Having been following the German forum (tff.de), the following has been confirmed with this batch of M3P's.
For those who have received VIN's / reconfirmed June delivery dates the cars will definitely have:

LG battery, 79Kwh (E5LD)
3D6 hairpin rear motor

This has been obtained from the COC's (certificate of conformity) which have been received by those in Germany who have VIN's for this batch of M3P's being shipped.

As previously discussed the LG battery offers less power (performance) than the Panasonic that's been used in the M3P up until this point.
The Panasonic puts out a capped 430kw total power from 70% to 100% SOC (hot battery, 50c). The LG puts out 390kw at 70% and peaks at 415kw at 100% SOC.

This effectively means maximum HP of the pan M3P is 576hp (70-100% SOC) and the LG M3P is 556HP (only at 100% SOC)
Both of these are on a hot battery temp of 50c, so best case scenario.

On a mid temp battery (30c), the disparity is reduced with 70%->100% SOC, resulting in 375->420KW (pan), and 365->405KW (LG)

The new higher output 3D6 motor offers no effective extra performance (as it's entirely battery limited), although it is slightly more efficient and gives better range in urban driving WLTP than previous model. Combined range is still lower on WLTP, due to slightly less battery capacity (79kwh vs 82kwh)

It's not all bad for the LG battery though - it appears to have less degradation than the Panasonic, at the very least it is much more stable and consistent on the BMS estimated range vs SOC. Tests at 10K km on a MYP with pan E3LD vs LG E5LD (same battery as now in M3P) show the estimated range has barely changed from new where as the Pan as dropped considerably....the Panasonic needs more 100% balancing charges to keep the total available capacity in check where the LG doesn't really care. Results are showing the LG as effectively ending up with same or slightly more effective capacity / real world range than the Panasonic after 10K km run in.

The LG is better (more output power available) at low SOC's (below 20%), especially when cold. The LG also has higher regen (85kw vs 75kw) and is more consistent with the regen power level.

Do we know if they have the C shaped brake and dual reversing rear light clusters?

 

[blower]

Also curious about this. With the range they explicitly decreased it on the product page from 352 to 340 miles as soon as the new battery even had a possibility of being delivered; we haven't seen any change to stated 0-60 times.

Yep, and when the AMD Ryzen Cpu was being delivered on the 1st quarter 2022 models - people were informed and had to agree to a further change in range. Those were the last models with the panasonics, but came with the Ryzen MCU3...so had a very slightly reduce range.

There has been 2 reductions in range- 1st for the ryzen cpu's, then for the LG battery + ryzen. The 1st range reduction was never put on the website, and only people who ordered in Q4 2021 but received their cars in Q1 2022 were informed of a slight reduction in range due to the increased power draw of the Ryzen MCU3.

Then of course came the advertised reduction in range to 340 miles and charging speed (30 mins 10-80% vs 25 mins for the Panasonic).

So are you saying that a Tesla Model 3 performance with a LG 5L battery will only do 3.1 seconds 0-60 at 100% soc. ?

Surely it will still do 3.1 seconds 0-60 at 80% soc etc for example. Tesla can't be advertising the model 3 performance doing 3.1 seconds 0-60 if it only does it at 100% soc then as soon as it goes to 99% SOC it will take longer.

Yes exactly this, in fact i am unsure if it can even do 3.1 seconds at 100% - as power is down from 430kw to ~415kw even at 100% SOC and a hot battery.
The US M3P's with the panasonic 82Kwh E3LD can easily hit 3.1 seconds at 80-90% SOC, when the battery is warmed up.

I really don't think Tesla have retested the car's performance since switching to the LG battery - don't be surprised if they haven't. They skipped an official WLTP test when they swapped to the Ryzen CPU but kept the panasonic battery, they only retested WLTP on the LG + Ryzen....in other words they are not shy of skipping testing when making changes, even when they are official mandatory tests let alone just a performance figure on their website.

The Model Y performance with the E5LD LG battery that is shipping out of giga berlin has been unable to hit it's 1 foot roll out figure of 3.5 seconds at ~90% SOC on a couple of video's i've seen now. Where the US model with the panasonic again easily hits it.

 

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Yep, and when the AMD Ryzen Cpu was being delivered on the 1st quarter 2022 models - people were informed and had to agree to a further change in range. Those were the last models with the panasonics, but came with the Ryzen MCU3...so had a very slightly reduce range.

There has been 2 reductions in range- 1st for the ryzen cpu's, then for the LG battery + ryzen. The 1st range reduction was never put on the website, and only people who ordered in Q4 2021 but received their cars in Q1 2022 were informed of a slight reduction in range due to the increased power draw of the Ryzen MCU3.

Then of course came the advertised reduction in range to 340 miles and charging speed (30 mins 10-80% vs 25 mins for the Panasonic).



Yes exactly this, in fact i am unsure if it can even do 3.1 seconds at 100% - as power is down from 430kw to ~415kw even at 100% SOC and a hot battery.
The US M3P's with the panasonic 82Kwh E3LD can easily hit 3.1 seconds at 80-90% SOC, when the battery is warmed up.

I really don't think Tesla have retested the car's performance since switching to the LG battery - don't be surprised if they haven't. They skipped an official WLTP test when they swapped to the Ryzen CPU but kept the panasonic battery, they only retested WLTP on the LG + Ryzen....in other words they are not shy of skipping testing when making changes, even when they are official mandatory tests let alone just a performance figure on their website.

The Model Y performance with the E5LD LG battery that is shipping out of giga berlin has been unable to hit it's 1 foot roll out figure of 3.5 seconds at ~90% SOC on a couple of video's i've seen now. Where the US model with the panasonic again easily hits it.

More than likely the data being confused with the 5C battery. The Tesla Model Y for Europe does not include the latest battery for today> teslamag.de

 

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More than likely the data being confused with the 5C battery. The Tesla Model Y for Europe does not include the latest battery for today> teslamag.de

Nothing is being confused with the older 5C 75kwh LG battery as that was only ever used in the Long Range M3 and MY.
The Europe MYP has only ever had the 79kwh LG 5L.

All the data is from the 79kwh LG 5L on the MYP and 82kwh Pan 3L on the M3 - confirmed by CoC's, data logs showing the ~79Kwh capacity along with part numbers of the batteries themselves. The data is also compiled from logs on multiple vehicles, not just one.

Comparisons have also been made with the older 5C LG 75kwh battery, but mainly to show what power outputs are in relation to the boost upgrade vs a performance model.