Maybe. The GM contract with LG that got leaked with the low price a while back locked GM into the price for an extended period if I remember right. Perhaps LG is taking a loss early in anticipation of making it up in the later part of the contract.
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Maybe. The GM contract with LG that got leaked with the low price a while back locked GM into the price for an extended period if I remember right. Perhaps LG is taking a loss early in anticipation of making it up in the later part of the contract.
LG isn't producing mass market volumes, so its unlikely they are beating Panasonic on price today.
The leading EV battery makers in 2025 will be providing similiar value to their auto maker clients. Anyone lagging behind will be left behind. There will likely be several different cell technologies in wide usage in cars.
$39,813 is currently the estimated sticker price for the base 68kWh Kona in the USA. How is that "about 35K?" I think you must have been absent from your math class when rounding up or down was explained.
Mixing up currencies and tax breaks. In the UK the top spec is £31k after the £4500 tax break. That's and $35k, or at least I'd expect a $35k M3 to cost about £31k in the UK all said and done.
ℬête Noire
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Last I checked the replacement cost for the Bolt battery was over $15,000 (just the part). You remember the Sandy Munro talking earlier in the week about how EV manufacturers besides Tesla weren't really seeing any margin?
Murno has no way of knowing Tesla's cell cost, or accurately estimating Tesla's pack cost.
chronopc
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This is all I can find about battery cost. Doesn't seem like Tesla released what their costs are, but they have a goal of $100 per kWh.
Tesla might have achieved battery energy density and cost breakthroughs
Tesla might have achieved battery energy density and cost breakthroughs
As a Korean, I wouldn't own a Kia. And that says a lot lol..
chronopc
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Uncle Paul
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Korean cars typically offer lower selling prices than their competitors. Few would choose them if the prices were the same as a Honda, Toyota or Tesla.
They also tend to have horrible resale values, so their Total Costs of Ownership are often higher than others.
An out of warranty Korean car does not sell for much.
They also tend to have horrible resale values, so their Total Costs of Ownership are often higher than others.
An out of warranty Korean car does not sell for much.
chronopc
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They typically offer very generous warranty.
seattlite2004
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Can't say I am a fan of the Kona's interior.
Found the below for the Kona EV. I could be a big fan of the interior depending on how much the Kona EV costs in the US.
Sounds like there could be some really good EV bargains then in the used Korean EV market.
Unfortunately people only look at range to compare EV's (Model 3 vs Bolt vs Leaf). When I see those, to me it's basically BMW 3 series vs. Honda Fit vs Corolla Hatchback. I never seen 3 different car segments compared like that before
Better battery warranty and better general warranty than Tesla.
Aside from the styling it's got some good features. There is a HUD right in front of the driver, for example.
boriszima
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Kona EV and Niro EV likely cross shopped to Bolt and likely new Leaf at 200 miles range and CUV style. I think it’s awesome but not likely to take away from Tesla model 3. Maybe in near future model Y. At $35K one can get fully loaded accord or camry as mentioned or majority of PlugIn Hybrids. I am a fan of Tesla
chronopc
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I don't think range is that significant of a factor. If it was the people on the waiting list would just buy the Bolt. I think brand name is the much more important when it comes to big purchases.
chronopc
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seattlite2004
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...and Andoid Auto, Car Play. heated steering wheel, and more than likely keyless entry with a key FOB.
