AnxietyRanger
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Very nice reporting @DrLegoHair, much appreciated. Please don't mind the occasional negative comment, your information is highly valuable and your posting very detailed. Thank you again for the effort.
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Sorry, but this should be your first post. This is how its done.
Sorry, but this should be your first post. This is how its done.
Now, when will Tesla finally engineer around this 12V issue?
It was in the roadster, it was in the S, it was in the X, it is in the 3.
Forget the APx problems, THIS 12v battery thing is the one problem that should simply not exists.
No excuses.
What is with the hostility about posting a question when your car breaks down?? This is a forum to HELP people.
With a human driver, it doesn’t scale. Driving a closed loop autonomous... no problem. I’m not saying they are, but they certainly could.Are you saying that you believe that Tesla test drives every car for 30-50 miles before delivery? That doesn't scale to the kind of production numbers they are trying to reach.
Agreed. I was thankful there was only one negative comment before your post, but it's interesting you felt the need to highlight it.Please don't mind the occasional negative comment, your information is highly valuable and your posting very detailed. Thank you again for the effort.
I don't think this is much to ask. Concision is extremely desirable in communication, wouldn't you agree, @AnxietyRanger? I personally think @DrLegoHair was quite concise.Some would prefer incidents and criticisms to be posted in condensed form avoiding repetition and vagueness,
I think those who would prefer this are in a significant minority here, if they do exist.and/or only after suitable delay that might allow solving them discreetly and thus avoid posting at all.
What is causing the 12V batteries to go bad?
This old blog post explains a lot of why the 12V can undergo greater fatigue in a Tesla. The reason in this case: poor battery management.
Syonyk's Project Blog: Tesla Model S 12V Battery Analysis
Are you saying that you believe that Tesla test drives every car for 30-50 miles before delivery? That doesn't scale to the kind of production numbers they are trying to reach.
There was an interview with the guy that does the test driving for Tesla somewhere recently. I believe they do more of a spot check system, rather than test driving every single car. Even at 2,500/wk, that’s too many cars to test every single one. Perhaps they are looking at more right now with production being slow, but it def won’t continue that way.It gets a few miles (single digits) testing inside the factory and a lap on the test track outside the factory.
It gets a few miles being moved around the parking lot prior to transport, being put in a lot off site, being put in a lot at a delivery center (service center, store, etc).
I wouldn't say 30 miles of testing but I would say it can rack up 5-15 miles just in the normal course of manufacturing + delivery.
As you can see at Odometer Reading at Delivery | Tesla they used to put 95 miles on the delivery paperwork, then went to 50 miles.
I think the lowest someone has had for non California delivery was 7 miles on the odometer.
It’s not a ‘widespread issue’ simply because a couple people post about it here or because some tow guy says ‘several’. Some people like to over dramatize using inaccurate words/wording.
Is there not a tow mode in Model 3 like S? Would that not have worked instead of all the putting it into drive and worrying about it dying again?
Whether Model 3 adds something new to the mix of potential reasons is unknown, but here's a thread and a quote that might be relevant:
You should have seen how my BMW i3 was delivered and how many times it went back to the shop for things that a 100 year old premium car company should have gotten right.Wow. I understand the concept of owners being beta testers, but from all the problems being reported with the Model 3, from failed motors to cracked glass roofs to failure to operate entirely, it sounds like production hell and bottlenecks may actually be in Tesla's best interests...
By the way, does Tesla provide free towing?
Was it the REx version? If so, I'm not surprised.You should have seen how my BMW i3 was delivered and how many times it went back to the shop for things that a 100 year old premium car company should have gotten right.