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Model 3 reserver rents Model S 75 for weekend-thoughts inside

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by shrspeedblade, May 15, 2017.

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  1. shrspeedblade

    shrspeedblade Member

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    I probably won't be saying anything groundbreakingly new, and I'm sure many of you have driven a Model S or X for at least a brief period (as had I-a Classic S85 and a P90DL), but I had a fun weekend and while I'm still on the high I want to share my experiences and thoughts. If anything, it's not about HUDs or panel gaps so hopefully it will be slightly refreshing/amusing! ;)

    Since my Volt is in the shop thanks to an Oak tree, I decided to spoil the family (not to mention myself) and rented a 2016 Model S 75 this weekend via Turo. Plus since before this I'd probably spent a grand total of about a half an hour driving a Tesla having a full 48 hours with one would serve to either reinforce or negate moving ahead with the soon to be available Model 3.

    My first impression after 5 minutes driving is I wish I'd sat in the car for an hour playing with the screen and the menus. By the end of the weekend this was a non-factor, but there is a difference between learning the controls on a regular car and running a touch screen computer. My other two experiences I had a sales rep or an owner sitting next to me, which makes a difference. I imagined the speed readout being right next to my right hand on the 3s landscape screen and I predict it will take me about 3 days to adjust to it and never think about it again. Also, I suspect the landscape orientation might be better as well, as the lower part of the Model S screen is fairly low, not that I'd want it smaller but just saying. I loved the option of having the back up camera on all the time- if for no other reason that visibility out the back window rivals my Miata with the top up (that's no complement) and I really hope the Model 3 can do this as well.

    Being "only" a S75 I figured this was the closest I could get right now to a RWD 3 with the big battery this side of putting on my ninja suit and breaking into the Palo Alto HQ, so if it is a fairly close approximation all I can say is:
    Wow!
    No, really:
    I expected to yawn a little at it after the P90DL I drove-albeit just over a year ago- but that simply wasn't the case. While it may not have the "crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women" passing power that the "L" does, it still will make any pass/acceleration any semi-judicious person (and some not) ever needs to make on public roads. I sold an E36 M3 sedan just over a year ago, and even at 60-80 I think it was slower in 3rd gear than the S75.
    The car had the standard tires and did NOT have air suspension- and still drove wonderfully. I had just climbed out of the Miata and the S still "shrunk" around me. The way it squats down on it's haunces and squirts out of corners reminds me of some the the mid engine/rear wheel cars I've driven on the track. It had less body roll and more grip than my Miata on Tein Flex coilovers that I drove right before picking it up and after dropping it off. Once again, it's fully capable of going as fast as any sane/judicious person should be on public roads, and you'll have fun doing it!(Note: for any Northern Californians I live near Lake Berryessa so you KNOW the kind of roads I was driving it on!)

    -If the base Model 3 sounds system is close, I'll be happy with it, as would most non-audiophiles.
    -I would turn lane departure warning off except for long trips, I found it too nanny-like.
    -WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NON D FRUNKS! poo
    -It's good you have all the sensors, hard to see the edges of the car.
    -I'm actually questioning my "must have a sunroof" stance. I hope I get to sit in a glass roof model before ordering.
    -I stopped thinking about the minimalist interior 10 minutes behind the wheel and never thought about it again.

    On supercharging:
    I want to cry. I want to cry because for the last year and a half I considered 12 miles/hour charge rate to be "pretty fast" charging. There are some things you are better off not knowing, and I now know what it's like to get around a 190 mile/hour charge rate. I don't think long distance travel in a Tesla will even have much effect on our stops to be honest, all it will dictate is where we stop and rather than stop-gas up-move car-pee-eat-leave it will be plug in-pee-eat-leave. You'll probably have to go move the car before your food is served, too. I think this is underrated until you actually experience it, and as a noob all I can say is the future is going to be OK.

    While I had the car, it updated Autopilot 2.0 the night before I took the car back. I was a little underwhelmed at first, and now I'm completely sold LOL! It already does exactly what I want/need it to do: make the most boring driving I do less tiresome. Yes, you still need/want to watch it like a hawk, but you can see it's getting there. If anything there is something almost MORE dangerous about it now because it inspires such confidence but will still blow through that red light if there is no one in front of you. At least it seems to have about caught up to AP 1.0 now, which portends good things for us Model 3 folk. I don't think I'd plunk down money for FSD in the next year, but AP 2.0? Yes, yes I'll be checking that box. :)

    In closing, I'd like to say I know this was a Model S, not a 3, and if Elon's tweets are accurate I'll have to adjust back to the roll up windows of my childhood again with the Model 3. Your experiences/mileage may vary, but even if the 3 is 80% of what the base level S75 is (and a car without the tech package or air suspension to boot!) we are still in for something very, very special. I myself am not sure if I made the wait any easier or harder for myself, but it went a long way towards solidifying what I stood in line for in October of oh-it-feels-like-so-long-ago. Thanks for reading and keep hanging in there: at least that's what I'm telling myself now! ;)
     
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  2. nd4spd569

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    Nice. Thanks for the thoughts. I was thinking about doing the same before the 3 came out to make sure since I've only test drive an S for less than 30 minutes also. I've been watching Turo for a good price.
     
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  3. MXWing

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    When I last took my X in for service, I got an older S. So old that it did not even have AP1.

    I did not like that S being spoiled since we have an end of 2016 X.

    The 3 ought to be closer to newer S's so what you might find on Turo might not be very representative of what the 3 might be.
     
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    You know instead of standing in line in October you could have just reserved online anytime between March 31st 2016 and October ;) I'm guessing you meant March 31st, which yes, is practically ages ago.

    If it's got AP 2.0 then it's one of the newer models...
     
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  5. shrspeedblade

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    LMAO! Yeah, the 3 hour wait because the line was already around the block at 10am might have FELT like about a 6 month wait, but it was a different kind of 'trick or treat' to be sure! Nice catch.

    And just to confirm, it was a facelifted 2016 S75 with autopilot 2.0, which updated while I had the car and I got to experience the before/after improvement.
     
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  6. Zaxxon

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    Thanks for your thoughts. If you don't mind me adding a tiny observation of my own--I attended the Colorado Springs EV Club meetup this past weekend, and another attendee with a new 90D was kind enough to let me check out his all-glass roof. What an incredible experience looking up from the back seat in that vehicle! The glass appeared to me to be adequately tinted, and the owner told me that temperature intrusion had not been a major issue for him.

    This is something that really deserves repeating early and often. I own a Leaf, and while its 35-ish kW DC fast-charging is great in a pinch, the experiences are just so dissimilar as to be entirely different. Outside of EV-specific publications, DC fast-charging tends to be lumped together. This gives potential buyers the possible misconception that an EV with fast-charging is an EV with fast-charging. Let's compare:

    Leaf - 35-ish kW. Find an available CHAdeMO station along your route (outside of CA, this is a shot in the dark, and stations are being added sssllooowwwllyy). Hope that it's not in use (most near me in Colorado are EVGo combo CCS/CHAdeMO stations with one plug of each, only one of which can be in use at a time). Arrive. Swipe your card. In 50% of cases, card reader is bad and you instead call. 2-3 min later, plug in and the vehicle starts charging. Grab 50ish miles in 15 minutes, or 75ish in 30. Rejoice and continue on your merry way!

    Tesla - 100+ kW. Find an available Supercharger station along your route (on major highways this is already a likely scenario, and stations are added in useful locations routinely). Stations may have as few as 4 stalls, but average 6-8. Arrive. Plug in. Grab 100 miles in 15 minutes, or 150+ miles in 30 minutes. Rejoice and continue on your merry way.

    In short, Superchargers are much faster and that gets most of the attention. But they're also so much more available, both in quantity of locations and availability of plugs within each location. And the experience when you do use them includes less friction. And that's before counting destination charging as an additional value-add.

    I love my Leaf. But I can't wait to replace it with a Model 3. Charging situation isn't the only reason, but it's an important one.
     
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    Right of course. Just saying for new drivers who rent an S. We can't assume they know what to look for. AP2 features with side cameras on car being the most obvious marking.
     
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    One of the Turo owners in San Diego, CA, who currently rents his 'S' and his 'X', told me he may be buying a Model 3 as well.

    Scannerman
     
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