LOL - yes. It is enclosed behind the seat and not open to anyone. Otherwise I would not do it.My only concern is the warning label associated with the product. under the product description in the listing on Amazon.
DANGER All ceramic fiber products have a hazard communication warning label and prop 65 warning for airborne fiber inhalation. Please consult the Safety Data Sheet for more information. HAZARD STATEMENT Prolonged and repeated exposure to ceramic fiber dust is suspected of causing cancer and other lung damage. May cause skin and eye irritation. PRECAUTIONARY STATEMENT When handling ceramic fiber we recommend protective gloves, safety glasses and long sleeve clothing. Avoid creating airborne dust, by only using hand tools. Frequently clean the work area with HEPA filtered vacuum or wet sweeping to minimize the accumulation of dust. Do not use compressed air for clean-up. Avoid breathing the dust and if necessary, wear an approved respirator mask. SAFETY DATA SHEET Upon request we can provide the full SDS sheet for these products.
Probably a bit over dramatic on the part of the manufacture to state this (prop 65), but it should be noted. I wish we could find a more natural fiber that worked just as well. Maybe sheep's wool? It is used a lot for insulating Sprinter camper vans and others.
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Model 3 Road Noise
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Thank you for sharing this very valuable information! I plan to do the insulation over the week-end after I receive the materials...
I have a 2018 M3 (Nov build), you're saying there should be some foam insulation under the carpet below the pedals? We're not talking about the mats but the actual carpet?
Do you think this type of insulation would work just as well as the ceramic fiber? I don't really know my materials vs sound attenuation well enough to tell. I'm wondering if this would be a safer alternative so there's no little bits of ceramic fiber dust overtime in the vehicle (even though there shouldn't be much dust at all since they're installed behind the wheel well panels)
Also tested these
Useless for what I wanted to feel and voice my car like - a Mercedes.
Hehe, awesome that you tested the exact material already
That Ceramic fiber wouldn't work in the front fender section in place of the PE foam I suppose? Guess it'd look strange being white and might retain water?Right. That is open to the weather and fiber insulation would get soggy and limp.Hehe, awesome that you tested the exact material already
Look at this. I am at a garage where they have the Mercedes opened up and what is Mercedes using? Same thing!!!! Ceramic Wool.
Another possible material to use is rockwool insulation. It is mineral based insulation that they use both for sound control in interior walls (specific product) and R-value insulation for walls and attics (also specific product). Can't find it for a reasonable price on Amazon but Lowes sells it in the US. The stuff apparently is better and safer than fiberglass insulation.
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Yes!!! I wanted to try that first and foremost but price and availability made me go for something else and I ended up with Ceramic Wool which is the choice for car firewall even in Mercedes as I found out 2 days after my install just by
luck.Please continue the discussion on the new “solved” thread.
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Solved: Road Noise & Front Wind Noise
Through the last few months, I have been watching and reading up the various posts regarding the many ways many of you all have attempted, as well as the various kits available online, to reduce if not eliminate road noise and wind noise from the Model3. After reviewing all those posts and...
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drdumont
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Foam board? Like the foam sandwiched between cardboard that you can get from Office Depot and the like?
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I think it's more like those new McFoam sandwiches from Mickey D's we keep hearing so much about.........
This should help…
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Inspired by enemji and Georgesb2, I bought some Second Skin sound deadening material when they had a sale, and today I lined my Model Y frunk, subtrunk, and parts of the trunk. I liked enemji’s reasoning that these parts of the car might act like speaker enclosures. At the same time given all the many folks who have tried various sound deadening tactics with limited results, I kept my expectations low.I see there have been many discussions on eliminating road noise, including the obvious dynamat on floor to the unique foam on the rear shelf for 2019 amd older models.
However, and somebody who is very engaged in audio science, I took a very different look and approach and it has worked!
So what different did I do?
If you see any speaker, you will see that the foundation of sound reproduction is designing the box. A speaker without a box is barely audible. Put that driver in a box and voila!
With that in mind my hypothesis was that the frunk and the trunk well are acting the same as speaker boxes and amplifying the road noise.
To test it out, I went down the path of insulating and isolating the frunk and the trunk well with simple bubble wrap on the floor of both the frunk and trunk well. On top of the bubble wrap, I placed the rubber mats to keep them down.
I then waited for my wife to take the car out to shopping and who had no idea of what I was doing in the garage.
After she came back from running her errands and shopping, she remarked over dinner that the car was very quiet today and almost no road noise, even over the rough worn out concrete roads outside the neighborhood. She then stared into my eyesand asked “What did you do?”
Then I also took out the car for a ride and yes! The car is almost as quiet as my mercedes S class.
I hope this helps anybody who is interested in reducing road noise on their Model 3.
By the way, this is the bubble wrap I used that I had some in my garage.
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Good thing I did. Here are the results. Using the NIOSH dB phone app, I averaged the db levels pre and post for three runs of a three mile stretch @65mph on a local highway. The improvement was measurable, but small, only .5 lower dB. I’d hoped for more.
To complicate things, new sounds have emerged, and I think I’m now hearing wind noise from the left rear door/window that I had not been able to hear before. I’m beginning to get a sense for how difficult this noise deadening process can be.
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