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I also find this thread baffling because I've had less problem with frozen windows/doors than with my previous ICE cars. It makes me think a couple of people have plugged weep holes at the bottom of their doors or something? I did take the normal preventive measures I need to take with all my cars (see my previous posts) since I'm often in the alpine areas in the winter but everything has functioned flawlessly except for having to give the door handle a couple of pounds with my fist when it's particularly bad. But that is second nature to me because this climate is bad for frozen door/window seals.
I did use Gummi Pfludge on the rubber door seals instead of special spray dielectric grease I normally use. In December I came back to my Model 3 after a day of storm skiing and 3/4 of the car was encased in ice/snow with the ice being a good 1/4" thick. Just brushed the loose snow off the trunk area, popped the trunk, got my ice scraper out and scraped the ice coating off the windshield and rear window. The doors opened fine with a couple of quick hits to the door handle, no drama, ever.
I'm also baffled by people that say they've had cars that didn't require a couple of good pounds to free up stuck door seals in a real winter climate after an icing event. Every car I've ever owned has had frozen doors and maybe it's because of my silicone and Gummi Pfludge treatments but the Model 3 seems less susceptible to door/window icing if anything.
That's false. Silicone is widely specified to lubricate rubber o-rings, plastic parts, rubber door mouldings, etc.
Permatex is one of the most trusted names in chemical tools in the automotive industry:
https://www.permatex.com/products/l...lubricants/permatex-silicone-spray-lubricant/
No it is not. Read on it. there is an entire literature on how and why it can attack the very thing you are trying to protect. If you love your Tesla, learn from others. If needing to dish 1000$ to replace rubbers year 5 go ahead...Yes I have heard silicone lube is safe to use on rubber/plastics
The most aggressive denials and insults usually come from Southern US or Norway, owners accusing of trolling anyone claiming a 30-50% range loss, because Norway is Arctic (avg Oslo winter temp is -4), etc. A site for tesla Canada is a good idea IMO as with windchill, we are talking arctic conditions.. And people forget that to remain healthy, these batteries NEED an operating temp of 21-30C. Not less and not more...You're not unlucky, you're just living the reality of the TM3 in proper winter. Sorry you've got such a backlash - I'm further north in Ottawa (-21C right now) and living these issues most days. Some are definitely unique to the Model 3 but lots of people on here and elsewhere get VERY defensive about any winter issues with the car and assume other people are morons. Sad but true. I suggest posting in the Canada forum - more people are familiar with the issues and we're more polite. ;-)
Actually, you are out to lunch. First, GASKETS AND SEALS are NOT Door seals.... Are they? So your argument fails right there.
Secondly, you have no clue what is in various silicone sprays.
So keep dishing bad advice and how oils or silicone are good for GASKETS, vs a completely different scope rubber...
And people forget that to remain healthy, these batteries NEED an operating temp of 21-30C. Not less and not more...
I put 303 Rubber Seal Protectant on the seals and haven’t had any issue, yet, with the glass sticking to the rubber...however, after a heavy rain and 10° temperature, the handles were frozen and driver window wouldn’t roll down.
Now, we wipe the handles (all over) after rain or car wash in the winter to help prevent freezing.
I think the issue with the glass is inside the door panel, which is preventing the move down (even pressing the button wouldn’t roll down). So, it’s not a seal issue, but maybe something freezing inside. Preheating does help.
Normal cold days have been fine. Door opens fine.
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Hi, If I'm not mistaken, all the door handle does is push a switch, that functions the same as the switch on the door. Since all the functions on the door are controlled by the same module, can't tesla do an ota update to have an 'open the door' function on the app that would mimic the signal of the interior door button?
Hi, If I'm not mistaken, all the door handle does is push a switch, that functions the same as the switch on the door. Since all the functions on the door are controlled by the same module, can't tesla do an ota update to have an 'open the door' function on the app that would mimic the signal of the interior door button?
based on the fact that I'm able to open and close the doors while the system is restarting, makes me think it's not part of the CANBUS.Inside is always active outside is not, so they probably are not the same exact circuit. But regardless just because it’s a switch or two does not mean it’s connected to the CANBUS. If it was I highly suspect that option would be there in the App and on Car screen.
based on the fact that I'm able to open and close the doors while the system is restarting, makes me think it's not part of the CANBUS.
based on the fact that I'm able to open and close the doors while the system is restarting, makes me think it's not part of the CANBUS.
I don't think that's proof because I'm sure some other stuff that also works while rebooting is on the CANBUS.