Model 3 SR+ Mileage at Full Charge

[Lakeshow24]

Hi TMC,
First off I drive a August 2019 build. I know there is battery degradation and I have never checked how many miles I get on a full charge so I decided to check on my app today and it seems I only get 222 miles to a full charge. Are other SR+ owners getting the same mileage?

 

[Lozza12]

Hi TMC,
First off I drive a August 2019 build. I know there is battery degradation and I have never checked how many miles I get on a full charge so I decided to check on my app today and it seems I only get 222 miles to a full charge. Are other SR+ owners getting the same mileage?

I have the exact same car and build date and get 380km to a charge. However, sometimes I have a heavy foot or drive up more hills so I only get 300km. Once I got 400km.

The point is you are waaaay over thinking this and for a car that new you definitely will *not* have significant battery degradation. It’s all about your average Wh/km (or miles for you) and that can vary enormously. Drive an old Nissan Leaf with 130km range and you will appreciate how fantastic Model 3 is. Just enjoy your car!

 

[TomB985]

Have to agree with Lozza12.

Seems like every 30 seconds I come across a thread on here or somewhere else asking about battery degradation. I completely understand the anxiety that comes from switching to a completely different way of powering our cars, but people pay far too much attention to the concept of battery degradation. Especially because the only indication we have is the computer's best estimate, which can vary widely from reality.

Just last week there was a post on the Facebook group from an owner who just rolled over 100,000 miles. His would fully charge to an indicated 97% of his original rated capacity. When asked about his charging habits, I had to laugh… He routinely charges to 100% and discharges down to the low single digits because of all the miles he drives. Pretty much the worst case for battery maintenance, and his pack is still in outstanding condition.

I don't blame the OP, I think everyone is prone to thinking like that. But the examples I've seen with both the older Model S crowd and the much newer, but occasional high mileage Model 3 owners, have kicked that thought firmly out of my mind.

Batteries aren't a problem. I'm going to plug my car in and drive it… I don't even look at the useless mile counter either. That thing disappeared for a much simpler percentage two weeks after I bought the car. If my battery proves to be the extremely rare outlier and starts dying early, I have a nice long battery warranty to handle it.

Here's the FB link I mentioned above, BTW. TESLA MODEL 3 Owners Club

 

[jjrandorin]

Hi TMC,
First off I drive a August 2019 build. I know there is battery degradation and I have never checked how many miles I get on a full charge so I decided to check on my app today and it seems I only get 222 miles to a full charge. Are other SR+ owners getting the same mileage?

On the off chance you actually are wondering "anyone else see this?" rather than just wanting to post about your "range loss" there is a 46 page thread stickied in the battery and charging section:

MASTER THREAD: Range Loss Over Time, What Can Be Expected, How to Maintain Battery Health

Also, since you drive an August build car, I am going to make an assumption that this is your first winter with the car. You might also want to look at teslas official statements about range, which are also stickied in the same section above:

Tesla Official Statement on Range

Also, your screenshot shows an approximation of what the charge would be at 100%. You didnt charge to 100% and let the pack balance, and I am going to guess that you likely read here and are charging to 80% or something because "thats what people on the forum said to do". Set the charge rate to 90% (the like just before trip), charge every day and keep the car plugged when not using it, and the rated range numbers will eventually balance themselves.

 

[skipere]

Hi TMC,
First off I drive a August 2019 build. I know there is battery degradation and I have never checked how many miles I get on a full charge so I decided to check on my app today and it seems I only get 222 miles to a full charge. Are other SR+ owners getting the same mileage?

my is the same, Text the support Team. They said it is normal.

 

[ewoodrick]

Charge to 90-90% and leave it plugged in for a few days, this will allow the batteries to balance and recalibrate.

 

[smashcz]

Are other SR+ owners getting the same mileage?

Unfortunately yes. But it is not normal. Many owners here are at 235-240 miles at 100%. Your driving habits have nothing to do with this. And service center will not do anything about it. Pretty much nothing you can do. I am one of many who have the same issue (since August).

 

[Ccmun]

I have the same issue. 19SR+ with 231 miles at 100% SOC. I charge to 90% and plug in at home every evening.

I contacted Tesla Service and was told not to worry. They did a remote diagnosis of the battery and reported all is fine. However the tech told me not to recharge until I am down to 30% or less.

Your call.

 

[cyoma]

Mine 100% SOC fluctuates between 228 - 232. I think I have seen 240 only around first two charging times. Tesla support said the display range depends on driving habits (I read efficiency), and they themselves cancelled my service appointment for this. I don't drive aggressively, but my lifetime efficiency (~5k miles) is around 280 wh/m. Partly due to I run 39 PSI and winter tires. Winter efficiency is 333 wh/m.
What is your efficiency ?

 

[earthwormjim]

I have a SR+.

The day V10 installed into my car, my car went from 240 miles of range, to 218. One charge later to my usual 80-90% limit, the car's max range was 220 miles, and remained that way for several weeks.

I did one deep discharge to full charge cycle, this brought the range up to 224 miles. Did it again, which yielded 226. I stopped after that.
Now several months later, the car's fully charged range is 229-230 miles.

This just seems like software issues with how battery capacity is measured or estimated, not actual battery degradation.

Tesla support said the display range depends on driving habits (I read efficiency),

Efficiency and driving habits (outside of temperature) have absolutely nothing to do with the displayed rated range on the car. They use a fixed constant wh/mi to display that number. Charging habits can affect it though, if you're keeping the car too full, or barely discharging the battery, the battery management system won't be able to estimate capacity properly.

 

[hmmwv]

Own a Nissan Leaf will cure anyone with range and battery degradation anxiety.

 

[Ocala.Joe]

Own a Nissan Leaf will cure anyone with range and battery degradation anxiety.

thats no joke.
I just fully charged my car yesterday, I think its my 2nd time since getting the car. It showed 236 miles.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

Hi TMC,
First off I drive a August 2019 build. I know there is battery degradation and I have never checked how many miles I get on a full charge so I decided to check on my app today and it seems I only get 222 miles to a full charge. Are other SR+ owners getting the same mileage?

As others have mentioned, I’d charge to 90% and then see what the 100% estimate is (there will be a bit less error).

As others have said, some of this may be due to BMS issues, but unlike others have said, I think some of it is probably due to capacity loss.

You started with about 53kWh. Say there is a bit of rounding error and BMS error and your actual 100% is 230 rated miles. That would mean you are at 50.4kWh. That is 5% loss of capacity, which is completely normal and expected after 6 months. (I’m at about 6% loss after a 14 months.)

You should expect probably about 10% capacity loss, and then loss will really slow down, which would be about 218 rated miles.

Pretty warm in LA so temperature probably not an issue for you right now but that will also result in lower numbers if it is quite cold.

 

[Sofos]

Mine is a 19SR+ and max I've seen is 226, and I drive in traffic with less than 220wh/m efficiency. Go figure.

 

[pl8dlikafiddle]

I also have an August 2019 SR+, and it’s the same as yours, OP. Fluctuates between 220-223 at full charge (rounding error in the calcs).

It has been a few weeks since I’ve done an actual 100%. I’ve been charging to 80% during winter and returning home with 40-45% (60 ish mile round trip commute). In the summer, I charged to 70%.

 

[rdcisneros3]

I charge mine to 75% daily. Have never charged it to 100%. At 75% it displays 183 miles, which extrapolates to 244 at 100%.

 

[tenchir]

March 2019 build at 11k miles. Currently 236 at 100%.

I charged it to 90% daily when I got it, but have dropped to 80% around August. i have basically been keeping the battery between 60-80%.

 

[Fernand]

I think people need to remember that the displayed "miles" is just an estimate. It changes.

I drove off last week for a road trip and completely forgot about the battery. Arrived to destination and suddenly realized .. there was just 50 miles on the "meter", and the nearest Supercharger was 20 miles the wrong way.

Quickly came up with a plan: park the car so the charging port is next to the motel window and run the "mobile charger" cable out the window from where the HVAC 220v plugs in. But the socket on the wall didn't match the 220v plug we had. Internet listing for "best 30 hardware stores in town" showed the one same ACE hardware in positions 1 through 30. They had no adapters, of course.

But then they say, there's a Tesla charger nearby. Huh? The guy in a cap escorts me outside and points at the Spa Resort 200 feet away that showed up as only a "destination charger" on the map. But sure enough, they had a couple of free Tesla wall chargers with long cables that ran at 32 amps. Moral of the story? Don't overthink it.

But maybe do carry an extension cord and some adapters.
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[dethman]

Moral of the story? Don't overthink it.

But maybe do carry an extension cord and some adapters.
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don't overthink it? sounds like a lot of wasted effort, time, and brain power to me.

 

[BikerPeaBody]

I haven't done full 100% charge lately, but used to get 236miles when I did