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gjunky

Trifecta: Solar and both cars are EVs
Mar 26, 2012
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Nice find. Waiting for the first VIN number spy /reveal pictures now. We don't need the last digits but it will be interesting to see if there are any performance models / dual motor versions coming of the line soon (not expected I know)
 

UCIBtheG

Member
Oct 10, 2016
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Elk Grove, CA
Surprised nobody has mentioned the inclusion of a VIN code for a single motor performance version. Was that ever confirmed anywhere? Or is that sort of just a carryover from the Model S when such a configuration was available?
 

TEG

Teslafanatic
Aug 20, 2006
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I think the assumption was that motors 1,2,3,4 were all for Model S & X.

Then comments that new motors A & B are not performance variants.

So, speculation that we won't see a performance Model 3 until next year.
( This was the 2017 VIN decoder document. )

I suppose they could build a performance Model 3 using a Model S/X motor, but I kind of doubt that.
 

lalaland

Banned
Mar 27, 2017
3
2
boston
Is there a way to obtain vehicle info using a VIN decoder? any examples for model s , x
user fills out VIN and the system provides vehicle info. Any suggestions if there is a Database?
 

FutureTSLACEO

Member
Apr 22, 2017
23
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West Coast

The unique serial number can contain up to 6 digits, which means up to the value "999999"... So based on the VIN, theoretically, TSLA could produce up to 999999 of Model 3 cars (same configuration like one-motor standard, and all produced in Fremont) in that year alone. Adding dual-motor, then it'd be 2 million of Model 3 cars in that year alone (who knows, year 2020?). The VIN is well-designed to consider maximum production output.
 

TEG

Teslafanatic
Aug 20, 2006
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Generally speaking, the sequence number keeps incrementing regardless of the options indicators that proceed it. So there wouldn't likely be a RWD and AWD both with the same sequence number for instance. If they ever get to making a million model 3 per year then they might need to be more creative, but I doubt they will run into that limit.
 

FutureTSLACEO

Member
Apr 22, 2017
23
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Generally speaking, the sequence number keeps incrementing regardless of the options indicators that proceed it. So there wouldn't likely be a RWD and AWD both with the same sequence number for instance. If they ever get to making a million model 3 per year then they might need to be more creative, but I doubt they will run into that limit.
I see. Thanks for the clarification. In that case, they could use more letters for the site production digit, like letter F and G representing the Fremont plant if they are able to ramp up to more than a million model 3 per year.
 

brianman

Burrito Founder
Nov 10, 2011
17,535
3,004
It looks like all 2017 (Model 3) VINs will share 10/17 characters:
5YJ3E1EA?HF######

Digit 7: Fuel Type
E = Electric
Not sure what to make of this.


Also, any thoughts on these different characters for the same values (see italic and underline pairs)?
Digit 6: Restraint System
1= Type 2 manual seatbelts (FR, SR*3) with front airbags, PODS, side inflatable restraints, knee airbags (FR)
A = Type 2 manual seatbelts (FR, SR*3, TR*2) with front airbags, PODS, side inflatable restraints, knee airbags (FR)
B = Type 2 manual seatbelts (FR, SR*2, TR*2) with front airbags, PODS, side inflatable restraints, knee airbags (FR)
D= Type 2 Manual Seatbelts (FR, SR*3) with front airbags. PODS, side inflatable restraints, knee airbags (FR)
Digit 8: Motor/Drive Unit
1= Single Motor – Standard
3= Single Motor - Performance
2 = Dual Motor (standard)
4 = Dual Motor (performance)
A= Single Motor – Standard
B= Dual Motor - Standard

Lastly, perhaps the variation in the presence of a space before the equals sign tells us something as well. Internal edits of the document at different phases.
 
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TEG

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Aug 20, 2006
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I had been assuming that 1/2/3/4 motor options were carryover from Model S/X and wouldn't apply to 3.
When they come out with performance Model 3 (in 2018?) they might add some new letter codes like C & D.
The above VIN info is just for the 2017 year, and there are no performance models yet.
 

TEG

Teslafanatic
Aug 20, 2006
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2018 update (credit to electric_drive for noticing):
Model3-2018-vin1.jpg

Model3-2018-vin2.jpg


Nice of them to clarify the motor type codes.
 
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favo

P3D+ owner
Apr 5, 2012
1,057
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Durham, NC
I'm a little disappointed they don't have the Model 3 (Dual) Performance motor on there yet. Back to waiting patiently for any tidbit of info...
 

shokunin

P85 & M3
Supporting Member
Feb 28, 2012
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630
Irvine, CA
I'm a little disappointed they don't have the Model 3 (Dual) Performance motor on there yet. Back to waiting patiently for any tidbit of info...

The S/X performance dual motor uses a different rear motor than the standard dual motor. I'm guessing the Model 3 performance will likely use the same motor as the standard, but simply allow a higher power output on both motors than standard.
 

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