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These things will take 3-4 years. In the meantime, they will just discontinue versions that don't sell well. In fact, I predicted they would discontinue the 75 before they did. See my message here from a few months ago. Here is a new prediction: They will discontinue the Model S 75D too.
I don't know what you mean by the differences are pretty obvious. When you look at the 75 kWh Model S and the Long Range Model 3, what is obvious is that the Model 3 is a better car, despite everything that Tesla says.
75 kWh Model S sales will plummet but Tesla doesn't mind it because they will hit higher profit margins on the Model 3 than the Model S because the Model 3 production line is more automated and the car is much easier to produce.
- The Model 3 LR has 20% more range than the Model S 75
- The Model 3 LR is 20% more efficient than the Model S 75
- The Model 3 LR costs 20% less to charge than the Model S 75
- The Model 3 LR battery degradation is 20% slower than the Model S 75
- The Model 3 has more rear seat headroom than the Model S
- The Model 3 has the newer battery technology
- The Model 3 has a driver facing camera
- The Model 3 center console has more storage space
- The Model 3 has door pockets
- The Model 3 is more aerodynamic
- The Model 3 has a more modern design
- The Model 3 costs less
- The Model 3 is future proof but the Model S is not because Tesla will redesign the Model S to make it easier to manufacture which means current Model S cars will be locked to the current battery pack options. You won't be able to upgrade the battery.
- The Model 3 LR is not about to be discontinued however the Model S 75 is. Tesla has already confirmed this. Buying a car that is about to be discontinued is not appealing to many buyers. The Model 3 75D is also likely to be discontinued when sales drop to almost zero soon.
- The Model 3 has the more automated production line. Listen here to Elon confirming this. That means fewer parts are hand assembled compared to the Model S which means fewer manufacturing errors.
They need to completely redesign the Model S to make it easier to manufacture and they need a completely new Model S production line that is more automated. These things will take 3-4 years. In the meantime, they will just discontinue versions that don't sell well. In fact, I predicted they would discontinue the 75 before they did. See my message here from a few months ago.
It's not so much of a prediction, as it pointing out something that's already happening.
I agree ... except for the car being more aerodynamic
You start out by answering "Yes"(to my original question of "is this a new way to troll Tesla") then you proceed to cut and paste the "way too long" troll I was talking about. What's your motivation?Yes, the differences are pretty obvious because when you look at the 75 kWh Model S and the Long Range Model 3, the Model 3 is obviously the better car, despite everything that Tesla says.
75 kWh Model S sales will plummet but Tesla doesn't mind it because they will hit higher profit margins on the Model 3 than the Model S because the Model 3 production line is more automated and the car is much easier to produce. They need to completely redesign the Model S to make it easier to manufacture and they need a completely new Model S production line that is more automated.
- The Model 3 LR has 20% more range than the Model S 75
- The Model 3 LR is 20% more efficient than the Model S 75
- The Model 3 LR costs 20% less to charge than the Model S 75
- The Model 3 LR battery degradation is 20% slower than the Model S 75
- The Model 3 has more rear seat headroom than the Model S
- The Model 3 has the newer battery technology
- The Model 3 has a driver facing camera
- The Model 3 center console has more storage space
- The Model 3 has door pockets
- The Model 3 is more aerodynamic
- The Model 3 has a more modern design
- The Model 3 costs less
- The Model 3 is future proof but the Model S is not because Tesla will redesign the Model S to make it easier to manufacture which means current Model S cars will be locked to the current battery pack options. You won't be able to upgrade the battery.
- The Model 3 LR is not about to be discontinued however the Model S 75 is. Tesla has already confirmed this. Buying a car that is about to be discontinued is not appealing to many buyers. The Model 3 75D is also likely to be discontinued when sales drop to almost zero soon.
- The Model 3 has the more automated production line. Listen here to Elon confirming this. That means fewer parts are hand assembled compared to the Model S which means fewer manufacturing errors.
- Model 3 LR resale value is not going to tank soon but the 75 kWh Model S is.
These things will take 3-4 years. In the meantime, they will just discontinue versions that don't sell well. In fact, I predicted they would discontinue the 75 before they did. See my message here from a few months ago. Here is a new prediction: They will discontinue the Model S 75D too.
Yes, if anybody is predicting now that Tesla will completely discontinue the 75 kWh Model S, that's not much of a prediction because it's obvious. We agree on that. However, just to be clear, I predicted Tesla would discontinuing the 75 kWh Model S a few months before they said anything about discontinuing the Model S 75. See the date of my message here. I wrote that in March. Besides the 75 kWh, I also predicted Tesla would discontinue the 60 and 90 kWh versions before they did. See my messages here and here.
Model 3 drag coefficient: 0.23 (Source:Tesla.com/presskit)
Model S drag coefficient: 0.24 (Source: Car and Drive Magazine)
what are you talking about? I don't even know what you mean by "wars" - debates? about what?I'm seeing more and more of this on Reddit and TMC but what's with the "Model 3 vs Model S wars"? The differences are so glaringly obvious...is this some new way of trolling Tesla?
Did you read your own title? "Model 3 vs Model S wars" - You thought people would not start comparing cars in the thread and assume your initial question was the entire subject of the thread?Thanks for the hi jack guys. This isn't a "Model 3 vs. Model S" thread. Please stop.
Why listed as a positive? Major negative in my book.The Model 3 has a driver facing camera
Okay fine... but to be interesting, your predictions need to be a little less obvious. It's not interesting to say that the sun will come up tomorrow, no matter how many times you might be right.