Model 3 Winter Tires

[mineguy]

Hi,
I have a Model 3 Tesla 2021
I see there is a winter tire kit made by tesla

Model 3 18" Aero Wheel and Winter Tire Package​

Their refresh version is out of stock, will the prerefresh version work?
Do I have to buy this kit from Tesla can I buy tires/rims from a tire shop. Will this void my warrenty?
Is there anything I should know when buying winter tires for Tesla model 3 2021.

 

[ry-ballz]

Yes the pre refresh version will work.

A Tesla is a car, any tire shop can work on it. Tires will not void your warranty.

 

[android04]

Hi,
I have a Model 3 Tesla 2021
I see there is a winter tire kit made by tesla

Model 3 18" Aero Wheel and Winter Tire Package​

Their refresh version is out of stock, will the prerefresh version work?
Do I have to buy this kit from Tesla can I buy tires/rims from a tire shop. Will this void my warrenty?
Is there anything I should know when buying winter tires for Tesla model 3 2021.

The only reason there's a pre-refresh version and a refresh version is the TPMS sensors are different. The wheel and tire are the same.

 

[afadeev]

I have a Model 3 Tesla 2021. I see there is a winter tire kit made by tesla
Their refresh version is out of stock, will the prerefresh version work?
Do I have to buy this kit from Tesla can I buy tires/rims from a tire shop. Will this void my warrenty?
Is there anything I should know when buying winter tires for Tesla model 3 2021.

You can buy any wheels + tires + TPMS sensors from anywhere, and as long as you are using stock sizes, there is no adverse effect on warranty.
My personal favorite for variety and prices is TireRack:

https://www.tirerack.com/snow/WinterTireCompare.jsp?minLoad=XL&sortSize=18&snowSortCode=21230&autoYear=2017&autoMake=Tesla&autoModel=Model+3&autoModClar=&winterType=AD&frontWidth=235/&frontRatio=45&frontDiameter=18&frontSortCode=53850&rearWidth=265/&rearRatio=40&rearDiameter=18&rearSortCode=54350&startIndex=0&search=true&performance=W

The only reason there's a pre-refresh version and a refresh version is the TPMS sensors are different. The wheel and tire are the same.

Sorry, but that's incorrect.
Model 3 uses industry standard 433 MHz TPMS sensors.
The following working 100% of the time, and TireRack can pre-install and pre-balance the entire whell+tire+sensor set, and ship them straight to your door (or to your mechanic's door):

https://www.tirerack.com/tpms/detail.jsp?ID=2327&autoMake=Honda&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Odyssey&autoModClar=Elite

 

[P3dStealth]

You can buy any wheels + tires + TPMS sensors from anywhere, and as long as you are using stock sizes, there is no adverse effect on warranty.
My personal favorite for variety and prices is TireRack:

https://www.tirerack.com/snow/WinterTireCompare.jsp?minLoad=XL&sortSize=18&snowSortCode=21230&autoYear=2017&autoMake=Tesla&autoModel=Model+3&autoModClar=&winterType=AD&frontWidth=235/&frontRatio=45&frontDiameter=18&frontSortCode=53850&rearWidth=265/&rearRatio=40&rearDiameter=18&rearSortCode=54350&startIndex=0&search=true&performance=W

Sorry, but that's incorrect.
Model 3 uses industry standard 433 MHz TPMS sensors.
The following working 100% of the time, and TireRack can pre-install and pre-balance the entire whell+tire+sensor set, and ship them straight to your door (or to your mechanic's door):

https://www.tirerack.com/tpms/detail.jsp?ID=2327&autoMake=Honda&autoYear=2019&autoModel=Odyssey&autoModClar=Elite

They changed the sensors. Model 3 pre-refresh use the standard 433 MHz. The cars with black trim and new center console use a proprietary Bluetooth based TPMs.

If he buys the pre-refresh wheels the tpms sensors will not work with his car.

 

[PITA]

Simple...

I'm not driving my Model 3 in Winter

As soon as the Salt goes down... I'm staying in, or switching cars.

I do exactly the same with my motorcycles.

 

[Shelburne]

I have a 2020 M3LR. I bought it last September. We had a fairly snowy winter, and I never once felt that the all weather Continental tires that came with it were inadequate on snowy roads. I live in a rural, hilly area: lots of curvy, fairly narrow roads. The only thing I did when driving on snowy roads was to reduce the regenerative braking. I even took the car out in the middle of a 12 inch snow fall on some of the hilliest, curviest roads I know. No problems at all. Now, if the roads are ice covered, my all weather tires and any unstudded winter tires will be pretty much useless unless you have chains.

 

[rpiotro]

Hi,
I have a Model 3 Tesla 2021
I see there is a winter tire kit made by tesla

Model 3 18" Aero Wheel and Winter Tire Package​

Their refresh version is out of stock, will the prerefresh version work?
Do I have to buy this kit from Tesla can I buy tires/rims from a tire shop. Will this void my warrenty?
Is there anything I should know when buying winter tires for Tesla model 3 2021.

Yes there is something you should know. If you are getting winter tires get the best. Nokian Hakkapeliita R3. I had them on my last car and they were unstoppable. C/D did a review a few years ago and found them to be the best with Michelin X-Ice a close second. They are also available in an RFT in case you are paranoid about stuck in a blizzard with a flat tire. The RFTs are quite stiff though. Be warned.

Is it any surprise that the Finns know how to build a snow tire? They seem to have some experience with snow.

 

[Sunny5280]

Yes there is something you should know. If you are getting winter tires get the best. Nokian Hakkapeliita R3. I had them on my last car and they were unstoppable. C/D did a review a few years ago and found them to be the best with Michelin X-Ice a close second. They are also available in an RFT in case you are paranoid about stuck in a blizzard with a flat tire. The RFTs are quite stiff though. Be warned.

Is it any surprise that the Finns know how to build a snow tire? They seem to have some experience with snow.

If the anyone doesn't want to drop the money on the Nokians I can highly recommend the X-Ice. Had them on my Volt and they were fantastic.

 

[pnwadventures]

Yes there is something you should know. If you are getting winter tires get the best. Nokian Hakkapeliita R3. I had them on my last car and they were unstoppable.

Just wanted to +1 the above. I’ve been running those tires each winter I’ve had the car (heading into #3 now), and they’re superb. I drive thousands of miles over snowy mountains for winter sports every season.

 

[jjrandorin]

They changed the sensors. Model 3 pre-refresh use the standard 433 MHz. The cars with black trim and new center console use a proprietary Bluetooth based TPMs.

If he buys the pre-refresh wheels the tpms sensors will not work with his car.

I was just about to post and reply with this same information, but yeah, the 2021s use bluetooth sensors (not industry standard TPMS), so there is a difference (agreeing with you).

 

[TulsaCoker]

and to add more infor on the new Bluetooth TPMS you can only get them form Tesla right now .. $75 each

 

[RSpanner]

Tires they make for EV's ( have had Nokians for years, there is no better one, imho Tires for electric cars / Nokian Tires

 

[afadeev]

Tires they make for EV's ( have had Nokians for years, there is no better one, imho Tires for electric cars / Nokian Tires

That's a self-promoting marketing fluff site by Nokian about Nokian. Not particularly informative, or helpful.

Has anyone seen any independent, 3rd party winter tire reviews that include Nokian Hakka R3?
I am not asking out of the blue, as I am actively shopping for two new sets of winter tires, one for my Model 3. And most national chains do not sell Nokia tires, nor do most tire surveys and comparisons include them in their tests.

I did find one comparison test that included both Hakka R3s and Micheline X-Ice (my current set of winters, Blizzak's before that), below.
Hakka R3's did OK, but not all that great:

2021 Studless and Studded Winter Tire Test - Tire reviews and ratings

If you live in a part of the world that sees an extreme winter such as the Northern USA, Canada, and the Northern parts of Europe, you'll know that regular central European winter tires just don't ...

www.tire-reviews.com

 

[Kvitravn]

Yes, I ran Nokian R3s on my Audi A4 quattros for many a snowy winter. I liked them better than the Hakka R extreme winter tires that are Tesla OEM over here. Hakka R are soft and wallowy and don't really seem to work in more moderate temps. But the car felt fast when it chirped all four tires on dry asphalt

I just switched my M3P to 245/35/20 Nokian Snowproofs on a set of Ultraturbines last weekend - so far I've noted that they are about an inch wider (looks great), quiet and pretty normal feeling. Happy so far. Chose these on the back of water and noise ratings; which the Hakka R scores pretty darn poorly on.

 

[rpiotro]

That's a self-promoting marketing fluff site by Nokian about Nokian. Not particularly informative, or helpful.

Has anyone seen any independent, 3rd party winter tire reviews that include Nokian Hakka R3?
I am not asking out of the blue, as I am actively shopping for two new sets of winter tires, one for my Model 3. And most national chains do not sell Nokia tires, nor do most tire surveys and comparisons include them in their tests.

I did find one comparison test that included both Hakka R3s and Micheline X-Ice (my current set of winters, Blizzak's before that), below.
Hakka R3's did OK, but not all that great:

2021 Studless and Studded Winter Tire Test - Tire reviews and ratings

If you live in a part of the world that sees an extreme winter such as the Northern USA, Canada, and the Northern parts of Europe, you'll know that regular central European winter tires just don't ...

www.tire-reviews.com

C&D did one in 2015 with the R2s. A little dated now but Haakas were the clear winner. I can throw my review in. They are f'ing awesome. Had them on two different cars. Also had Blizzaks once upon a time. Meh. Pretty good but...

C'mon man! Those Finns know a little bit about driving and racing in the snow.

Winter-Tire Test: Six Top Brands Tested, Compared

To find the season's best studless snow-and-ice tire, we head north. Really quite far north.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[Vince C.]

Currently in an 18 LR in NE Ohio and have not had any issues with the stock all seasons. However, I am considering upgrading to a 21 performance (given the used market/significant offers I've gotten).

2 questions: 1) does everyone definitely recommend a winter set given the performance summer tires and 2) as far as experience with tirerack, do they ship the sets right to you, ready to go and mount yourself?

 

[Kvitravn]

Separate winter set is the only way to go if you have proper winters. But to each his own, you guys live all over the place

 

[pnwadventures]

FWIW I have two full winter seasons on the R3s on my AWD M3. Prior to that I drove exclusively on Blizzak and Wintersport 3D in a Quattro Audi (13 years). I can vouch for the R3 being an outstanding winter tire for both snow and ice. It also doesn't drive like the tires are wrapped in carpet on dry pavement (Blizzaks).

 

[RLEE]

That's a self-promoting marketing fluff site by Nokian about Nokian. Not particularly informative, or helpful.

Has anyone seen any independent, 3rd party winter tire reviews that include Nokian Hakka R3?
I am not asking out of the blue, as I am actively shopping for two new sets of winter tires, one for my Model 3. And most national chains do not sell Nokia tires, nor do most tire surveys and comparisons include them in their tests.

I did find one comparison test that included both Hakka R3s and Micheline X-Ice (my current set of winters, Blizzak's before that), below.
Hakka R3's did OK, but not all that great:

2021 Studless and Studded Winter Tire Test - Tire reviews and ratings

If you live in a part of the world that sees an extreme winter such as the Northern USA, Canada, and the Northern parts of Europe, you'll know that regular central European winter tires just don't ...

www.tire-reviews.com

Really good data here:

Continental VikingContact 7 Test, Reviews & Ratings - Is It Good Winter Tire? | AllTyreTests.com

Test and review of the Continental VikingContact 7 from the Norwegian Autofil. Experts have tested tire on dry, wet, snow and ice and compared it with 9 medium and premium tyres.

alltyretests.com

I was between the vikingcontact7, R3, and XIce Snow last year. I have R3's on my Subbie Outback and they are just amazing in the ice/snow; I don't think anything is better (I've used almost all of the the main premium and standard 'nordic' snow tires). I went with VikingContact7 for the Model 3 RWD but didn't have too much snow to deal with, it did very well with what it did see. I recently upgraded to a 2021RWD... this year I think I'm just going to run CrossClimate2's year round... if any heavy snow is out, I'll just take the Subbie.