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Model 3 Winter Tires
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THAT is your problem right there - you fixed your driveway, but are still driving on crappy all-season tires over snow!
All-season tires suck in all seasons, and they MOST DEFINITEVELY lack traction in snow.
The simplest advise we can give is this - ANY snow tire will be a HUGE improvement over your current set of all-seasons.
Now, the question is - what snow tires would be best for you?
Other than your challenging driveway, how do you use your car in the winter?
Venture outside of your immediate area? Drive to ski slopes? Drive on the highways? Go on road trips?
Studs in snow tiers will help you dig into and improve traction over ice packs, but will nothing to improve traction over snow. They will also damage your (and other people's) driveways. Studs also wear out, and require maintenance. Studded tires will also be significantly noisier, to the point of annoying.
More info here:
I live in state where studded tires are outright prohibited on public roads (in CO they are allowed), so no first-hand experience for you.
But I do take my cars to ski resorts all winter long, between NY and Canada, through snow blizzards and poorly plowed roads, for years on end. I've have never felt the need for extra traction beyond what proper winter tires provide. But that's me, with my lifestyle and driving patterns.
I don't know yours.
Otherwise, for ultimate winter traction over fresh and packed snow, pick one of the following:
The Top Winter Tires for Safer Driving in Snow
What are the best winter tires? These are the snow tires the pros recommend for peak traction in winter driving conditions.
www.caranddriver.com
Hey, thanks for that!That's a self-promoting marketing fluff site by Nokian about Nokian. Not particularly informative, or helpful.
Has anyone seen any independent, 3rd party winter tire reviews that include Nokian Hakka R3?
I am not asking out of the blue, as I am actively shopping for two new sets of winter tires, one for my Model 3. And most national chains do not sell Nokia tires, nor do most tire surveys and comparisons include them in their tests.
I did find one comparison test that included both Hakka R3s and Micheline X-Ice (my current set of winters, Blizzak's before that), below.
Hakka R3's did OK, but not all that great:
2021 Studless and Studded Winter Tire Test - Tire reviews and ratings
If you live in a part of the world that sees an extreme winter such as the Northern USA, Canada, and the Northern parts of Europe, you'll know that regular central European winter tires just don't ...www.tire-reviews.com
Guys, sorry in advance as it might be repetitive post but couldn't get exactly what I was looking for . Here's my situation :
Got Tesla Model-3, 2021, do I critically need Winter tires if I am not planning to drive in deep snowy area only in GTA and around ?
I got a quote of 2860 CAD from Tesla service center at Mississauga for 18 Inch Pirelli WINTER SOTTOZERO-3 tires (18 inch). Is it too much ?
What other options I got and if I go with them does it void my Tesla warranty in any ways.
Thanks in advance !
Adi...
Got Tesla Model-3, 2021, do I critically need Winter tires if I am not planning to drive in deep snowy area only in GTA and around ?
I got a quote of 2860 CAD from Tesla service center at Mississauga for 18 Inch Pirelli WINTER SOTTOZERO-3 tires (18 inch). Is it too much ?
What other options I got and if I go with them does it void my Tesla warranty in any ways.
Thanks in advance !
Adi...
Critical is a personal decision. Do you like to be able to stop as quickly as possible? Then yes you should have studless snow tires. Seems like a lot of money but if it's the difference between hitting someone and not hitting someone it's worth it in my opinion. Snow tires are leaps and bounds better in winter over all season tires.
$2860 sounds reasonable if they are on rims which they pretty much have to be for that price, and with the BLUETOOTH TMPS installed. If you have a 2021 you HAVE to get Bluetooth TPMS sensors. The previous sensors do not work. But since your quote is from a Tesla service center then you should be OK there.
I'm also assuming you have a SR+ or LR. If you have a performance I would personally recommend 19" wheels/tires for winter even though some 18" rims will barely fit.
Putting on different tires and rims will not void your warranty in any way.
Thanks Braumin for your detailed reply ! All valid points , mine is SR+ so 18'' rims for me it seems.
Other than what Tesla offers what other options I can consider.
Will wait to hear from others before taking the final call...
Cheers !
Adi..
Birdsfan
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I just bought a 19" winter set up, rims, tires (Conti Extreme) and ble TPMS, mounted/balanced from Element Wheels (Custom Wheels and Tires - #1 in Aftermarket Rim & Tire Packages). The website configuration will walk you through rims and tires that fit your Tesla. All in I paid $2,700. You certainly have options, my tires are all season not winter but we don't see that much snow in Philly.
I'm also in Canada. I'm not affiliated with them in any way but I ordered my winter wheel/tire set from PMCTire.com out of Quebec. They also offer the Bluetooth TPMS sensors and although they do cost more to get them there than Tesla, I don't have a local Tesla service center to get them from so I was happy to have them supply and install them for me. Service was great. They have a wizard to show what tires and wheels fit your car and free shipping in Canada.
I got 18" Fast FC04 wheels and Michelin X-Ice Snow tires for my 2021 Model 3 Performance. The 18" barely fit which is why I would say 19" if you have a Performance, but for your SR+ the 18" will fit with no issues since the brakes aren't as big.
I got 18" Fast FC04 wheels and Michelin X-Ice Snow tires for my 2021 Model 3 Performance. The 18" barely fit which is why I would say 19" if you have a Performance, but for your SR+ the 18" will fit with no issues since the brakes aren't as big.
This is really helpful to know. Ottawa Ontario has some similar winter weather and I keep wondering about getting a winter tire set for my new 2022 M3LR. Was thinking of holding off to try the all seasons and see. I get the car next week. I won't be driving in a big storm anyway.
I just went through the Tesla pre owner talk and the rep Gad said he's been driving Teslas for 10 years and he really likes the Nokians. Perhaps we can consider that an independent 3rd party review?That's a self-promoting marketing fluff site by Nokian about Nokian. Not particularly informative, or helpful.
Has anyone seen any independent, 3rd party winter tire reviews that include Nokian Hakka R3?
I am not asking out of the blue, as I am actively shopping for two new sets of winter tires, one for my Model 3. And most national chains do not sell Nokia tires, nor do most tire surveys and comparisons include them in their tests.
I did find one comparison test that included both Hakka R3s and Micheline X-Ice (my current set of winters, Blizzak's before that), below.
Hakka R3's did OK, but not all that great:
2021 Studless and Studded Winter Tire Test - Tire reviews and ratings
If you live in a part of the world that sees an extreme winter such as the Northern USA, Canada, and the Northern parts of Europe, you'll know that regular central European winter tires just don't ...
Sorry, but not even close!
At best its hearsay from a sales guy, one of the least trustworthy types of humans out there.
Not to mention that Nokian, like all other tire makers, produces hundreds of tire types and flavors for all conditions. It's highly unlikely that all of them are great. Though some may very well be.
w.r.t. to independents test, Nokian itself lists five (5) self-selected comparisons tests. It finished between 2nd and 4th:
Nokian Tyres Hakkapeliitta R3 - Peace of mind for the Northern winter / Nokian Tyres
A Nordic non-studded winter tyre, that adapts to all weather variations offering relentless grip. The perfect choice for drivers who value first-class safety and greener driving.
www.nokiantyres.com
Here is another example of an independent study:
2021 Studless and Studded Winter Tire Test - Tire reviews and ratings
If you live in a part of the world that sees an extreme winter such as the Northern USA, Canada, and the Northern parts of Europe, you'll know that regular central European winter tires just don't ...
www.tire-reviews.com
For what it's worth, I've finally installed my newly purchased set of Nokian Hakka R3's on my TM3P, and put away PSS's for the winter. Tires were shipped to my door, and installed on spare set of winter wheels by local Firestone franchise that has done quality work for me in the past.
The next day, temps promptly climbed into high 50s / low 60s. My ride and traction went from firm and fun to floaty and squirmy. Some of that is just the new tread wearing in, some of it is winter tires operating outside of their optimal temperature range. I will defer any conclusions until the temps drop back to where winter tires are supposed to excel.
I'm also in NE Ohio and here looking for winter tires for my M3P. These tires are awful in the winter- as in, dangerous to drive at all. Seems there are very limited winter options for the low profile rear tires. I may have to consider getting 19 inch rims to find more suitable tires.
Definitely preferable to go smaller diameter wheel and get some more sidewall on your tire.
Also a slightly narrower width of wheel and tire will be a benefit in the snow.
I'm running 245/35/20 Nokian Snowproof on the original Ubers and like those much better than the Hakka R variety that is more common around here. Mainly because they are quieter and have more directional stability. The 245s sit pretty much square on the wheel and fill up the arches quite a lot compared to the Pirellis
It's true that a narrower tire would tend to work better at cutting through really deep snow to find traction, but frankly most people drive on roads somewhat fleared of snow so personally I prefer a stock size tire with good water drainage and noise level rather than all out maximum traction. These cars are absolutely wonderful winter cars btw - miles better than any Audi quattro I ever owned anyways.
It's true that a narrower tire would tend to work better at cutting through really deep snow to find traction, but frankly most people drive on roads somewhat fleared of snow so personally I prefer a stock size tire with good water drainage and noise level rather than all out maximum traction. These cars are absolutely wonderful winter cars btw - miles better than any Audi quattro I ever owned anyways.
Hi all, I live in the CO Mountains and we have run Nokian Hakka 9 or 10s on all vehicles for years. We recently got a model 3 performance, and I am starting to think about winter tire / wheel packages. Pretty sure I want to stick with the Hakka 10s, and would love to go with a smaller rim than the 20s that come stock. Does anyone know if I can get an 18 on the 3P or do I need to go with a 19?
TulsaCoker
Member
Package one out of Tire Rack and It will tell you what rim diameter will work. On my wife's Y performance (21" OEM) I went with 19" and Hakka
There are many 18" wheels that fit the M3P. I think a couple were mentioned in this thread, and I know others are mentioned elsewhere on the forum. Off the top of my head, I know that Tsportsline makes some. Even the stock Tesla 18" wheels can be made to fit if you're willing to do a little grinding on your brake calipers; that's not something I would do however.
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