Oh I've made my decision, it's just getting my wife on board with the value of going EV versus the perceived safety and utility benefits of larger ICE cars. Her moms group friends' love of their SUVs and minivans doesn't help. Sucks that we can't afford a Model X yet.
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Model 3's Ride Quality
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gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
Instead of the 3, have you considered a nice CPO S with the air suspension? If you are going for a fully-equipped 3, a well-equipped CPO S with a reasonable number of miles on it may still be in the ballpark, budget-wise. The S has more room for a family of 4 and the air suspension would take away the ride comfort concern.
I second this. The S has huge cargo space and a big interior.
And is very safe. I walked away from this wreck with essentially no injuries. Was sore for about 2 weeks, and that was it. I am totally sold on Tesla vehicles.
Totalled my S today....so I confirmed my Model 3 First Production order
brucet999
Active Member
Good luck changing people on that. Similarly, I find the use of "rims" when they mean "wheels" quite annoying. Wheel is the whole thing; rim is just the part of the wheel that holds the tire bead on.
Brentt
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Are you driving on concrete? It will almost always be rougher than asphalt.
I have low profile tires on my Hyundai, and on concrete roads you can’t hear yourself think,
But on asphalt they are fine.
I have low profile tires on my Hyundai, and on concrete roads you can’t hear yourself think,
But on asphalt they are fine.
Were you around when you could not see 100 feet in the summer in a big city?
Anyhow, some ICE vehicles have lower emissions than a Model 3 in Pennsylvania.
Electromotive drive is a better propulsion system than internal combustion. That does NOT mean it's greener. Not in California, not in most states.
Why? The upper middle class commutes more miles a year to work than any other demographic.
I live 2 miles from work, and we make far more electricity than our cars use by a huge factor.
I do what I think is right, and do not feel compelled to force others to do the same.
Won't be very good for energy consumption. Somewhat ironic suggestion given how Tesla worked so hard to save a pound or two here and there in the car design....
insaneoctane
Well-Known Member
There were a few comments about the negatives of my suggestion that indicates that it wasn't understood properly.... I am not suggesting that the adding a few hundred pounds be permanently left in the car, that's crazy. I merely suggested a quick way to evaluate if that was the problem. If it helps/fixes the problem, then you know that reducing the spring constant is a possibility. We don't know if the model 3 springs are constant or variable. If you identify a need, either Tesla offers it or 3rd parties will fill the void. On a sales base of 500K of decently deep pocketed customers, that is a good shot at decent volume of attractive demographics....
A little different than that, because if you are being technical, in California Tesla does indeed operate licensed dealerships.
dhanson865
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People are never satisfied. They want to be driving on a cloud, but when the situation demands it, they want the car to react like a Formula 1 car. You can't have it both ways. You either get great handling, or you get a comfy mushy ride. There is no in between.
Personally I was worried it was going to feel like a yacht (model S). Thankfully the reviews came back positive for being sporty. Seeing the car sit from a variety of angles, I hope suspension mods will come to the rescue. I'm use to driving really sporty vehicles. I want to be able to feel the road and understand what type of surface I'm dealing with. Not to mention in its stock form, it sits a bit too high. I'm pretty sure sway bars and springs will make it out soon enough for this version of the Model 3.
It's listed as 5.5" ground clearance at Model 3
2005 Prius is 4.9" (2009 Prius went up to 5.6")
2012 Leaf is 6.3"
You can surely lower it as much as you want but even at 4.x" I scrape some speed bumps. Anyone wanting it to sit lower might want to wait for the AWD version with SAS so you can lower it and raise it on demand.
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
I got the impression from Elon's August tweet that AWD and SAS would be paired (can't get one without the other)
Elon Musk on Twitter
All I know is that they hit it out of the park with the model 3. Everyone will be driving one in 5 years. What a car! Autopilot to the masses for less than 50k... game over for a very long time for BMW 3, Lexus, you name it.... it's going to get ugly for them over the next 5 years.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
I spent a day with a 3 and while I definitely found the ride to be on the firmer side, I didn't think it was overly firm. It was about the equivalent of selecting the sports suspension on a BMW.
I can see how it might not be everyone's cup of tea but as far as being overly harsh, I'm not sure that's fair criticism. It's definitely a sportier car than the S and let's be honest... when you buy a car sight unseen you have to have some understanding that maybe every aspect of the car might not be exactly as you would have chosen it.
Likewise, in an effort to streamline production Tesla has to eliminate options and pick what they think the most people are going to like. Perhaps down the road we get a suspension option.
I can see how it might not be everyone's cup of tea but as far as being overly harsh, I'm not sure that's fair criticism. It's definitely a sportier car than the S and let's be honest... when you buy a car sight unseen you have to have some understanding that maybe every aspect of the car might not be exactly as you would have chosen it.
Likewise, in an effort to streamline production Tesla has to eliminate options and pick what they think the most people are going to like. Perhaps down the road we get a suspension option.
Sporty/Stiff suspension != Bad ride quality
It is all personal preference and I definitely like this sporty suspension better than the MS. Cannot compare to the Model X as it is a "SUV". The ride of this M3 reminds me of an E46 M3. And comparing to my 911 TT-S on Sports mode, this is like riding on clouds.
It is all personal preference and I definitely like this sporty suspension better than the MS. Cannot compare to the Model X as it is a "SUV". The ride of this M3 reminds me of an E46 M3. And comparing to my 911 TT-S on Sports mode, this is like riding on clouds.
Cannot agree more. I actually just priced a BMW 340i with similar but inferior tech options (no AP for BMW) and it came out to be around $55000. Even without the government incentive, I can see myself picking the Model 3 over the BMW and with the tax incentive and state rebate, I cannot see how anyone would pick a 340i over a Tesla.
Disclaimer: I owned a few BMWs before and is still a big fan of the E46 M3
Disclaimer: I owned a few BMWs before and is still a big fan of the E46 M3
Your getting an (SUV) RDX; case closed.
You can hope that the rumored BUICK SUV (based on BOLT architecture?) to be announced this year might work.
Worst case the Mitshubishi Outlander PHEV might be a compromise.
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