Model S： the best-seller in Norway in the 1st week of September

[callmesam]

Is this also true in the presence of salts? You'll see corrosion on aluminium window frames near the ocean, and I believe one of my chemistry teachers pointed out that this is due to influence from ions. I am not an expert on chemistry, though. All I'm saying is that this is a risk-factor which has been underreported.

You are proving the point. Even aluminum exposed to salt water on a daily basis for 10 years gets ion pitting of less than .1mm. Most of the residue is leftover salt ions which can be mechanically removed. Compare this to the corrosion typically seen with mild steel. 2-10mm corrosion pockets are typical.

This is a risk-factor that does not exist therefore it has been reported in the correct proportion.

 

[marvinat0rz]

Now, I haven't driven in Norway, but I am curious how you are measuring how hard each local is on cars if it isn't on quantity of salt used?

Norway has fewer and smaller roads, only a few four-lane highways and a smaller population than the US, and only roads in metropolitan areas (*where most people live) are salted. It stands to reason that we'd in total use less salt by weight. My point was that we have a climate with a lot more rain in the fall and winter, which means that a much larger proportion of the road salt will actually come in contact with your car. It gets dissolved in the rainwater and sprays all exposed parts of the car body whenever the roads are wet, which in the cold season is somewhere around 50% of the time in certain parts of West Norway.

For steel cars this is brutal, for aluminium cars people are saying it won't be an issue. I'll take your word for that part, just trying to bring some geography-specific facts to the table.

 

[mountaineer]

Here's the list of gas prices in some 60 countries:

Highest & Cheapest Gas Prices by Country: Gasoline Prices - Bloomberg

Highest & Cheapest Gas Prices by Country

By Tom Randall - Feb 13, 2013 7:11 AM CT

This Bloomberg Ranking lists countries by gas price and pain at the pump. Click here to view the full slideshow.

$9.89....Turkey.........................#7
$9.63....Norway......................#51
$9.09....Netherlands...............#40
$8.87....Italy............................#31
$8.82....Portugal.....................#17
$8.62....Greece.......................#21
$8.50....Sweden......................#46
$8.41....Belgium.....................#41
$8.38....France.......................#37
$8.22....Denmark...................#48
$8.15....Hong Kong.................#36
$8.12....Finland.......................#44
$8.06....United Kingdom.........#39
$8.05....Ireland........................#43
$7.96....Germany....................#42
$7.67....Israel..........................#34
$7.61....Slovakia.....................#18
$7.60....Slovenia.....................#27
$7.44....Malta..........................#24
$7.21....Hungary.....................#13
$7.19....Switzerland................#52
$7.06....Spain.........................#33
$7.03....Austria.......................#47
$6.97....Czech Republic.........#23
$6.94....Lithuania....................#14
$6.88....Cyprus.......................#30
$6.83....Latvia.........................#16
$6.81....Luxembourg..............#55
$6.77....South Korea..............#32
$6.73....New Zealand............#44
$6.70....Estonia......................#22
$6.70....Japan.........................#49
$6.70....Romania.....................#8
$6.67....Poland.......................#15
$6.53....Bulgaria......................#5
$6.31....Australia.....................#54
$6.29....Singapore...................#50
$6.20....Chile...........................#25
$5.40....Brazil..........................#20
$5.19....Argentina....................#19
$5.06....South Africa...............#11
$5.00....India............................#2
$4.87....Philippines..................#3
$4.76....Canada......................#53
$4.74....China...........................#9
$4.72....Colombia....................#12
$4.42....Thailand.....................#10
$3.98....Pakistan.......................#1
$3.68....Indonesia....................#6
$3.47....Russia.......................#35
$3.29....United States.............#56
$3.22....Mexico........................#29
$2.36....Malaysia.....................#38
$2.34....Nigeria.........................#4
$2.15....Iran.............................#28
$1.77....United Arab Emirates..#57
$1.14....Egypt..........................#26
$0.81....Kuwait........................#59
$0.45....Saudi Arabia..............#58
$0.06....Venezuela..................#60

 

[Zythryn]

Norway has fewer and smaller roads, only a few four-lane highways and a smaller population than the US, and only roads in metropolitan areas (*where most people live) are salted. It stands to reason that we'd in total use less salt by weight. My point was that we have a climate with a lot more rain in the fall and winter, which means that a much larger proportion of the road salt will actually come in contact with your car. It gets dissolved in the rainwater and sprays all exposed parts of the car body whenever the roads are wet, which in the cold season is somewhere around 50% of the time in certain parts of West Norway.

For steel cars this is brutal, for aluminium cars people are saying it won't be an issue. I'll take your word for that part, just trying to bring some geography-specific facts to the table.

Much appreciated, thank you.
I suppose a salt/km of road would be more accurate, but the additional road spray, would also play a role.

 

[dave]

I wonder when the first Tesla will be sold in Venezuela!

 

[castigador55]

I wonder when the first Tesla will be sold in Venezuela!

NEVER!! NEVER ever.


those prices are old ... Now gasoline is still cheaper in venezuela.
1 liter Gasoline = 9.7Kwh
To move a car 100 km it takes 20 kWh, estimating losses combustion engine requires about 10 liters to drive 100 kilometers.
10 liters = $ 0.14 to drive 100 kilometers in mode ICE
20kWh = $ 0.62 $ to driving 100 kilometers in Electric Mode.

is cheaper gasoline drive in my country.

these calculations are the official dollar price ... with prices of the dollar on the black market prices are:
10 liters = 0,022 U.S $ to drive 100 kilometers.
20kWh = 0.1 $ to driving 100 kilometers in Electric Mode.

Tourists from other countries who come to Venezuela not change Dollars or Euros in Banks. Only fools do. black market one dollar costs 7 times more than the official market. if you come to Venezuela I guarantee you would enjoy a lot with only 1000 dollars