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Model S Battery almost impossible to "brick"

Discussion in 'Model S' started by NigelM, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. NigelM

    NigelM Recovering Member

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    I'm sure that this got posted over on THE "bricking" thread (400+ posts by now), but for the sake of future searches and clarity it's worth a mention here:

    http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/plug-it

    Tesla didn't come up with that piece of technology overnight. The above paragraph alone must be enough to convince any skeptic that Tesla knows what they are doing.....
     
  2. onlinespending

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    That's great news about the Model S. Almost entirely unlikely that it would ever brick. And really, who could even go a few weeks (let alone months) without wanting to drive (and therefore charge) this beautiful car? No chance anyone would let it just sit unused :)
     
  3. NigelM

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    I know this is likely excited hyperbole, but there are plenty of instances where this would happen. I'm just happy to hear it's unlikely. 12+ months is more than enough. Interesting they quote from 50% though. I wonder if it's a similar number above 50% but 50% is the point where the pack first starts to limit draw? If so, from 100% you might see a sharp drop to 50, then taper off.
     
  5. Iz

    Iz EVs are here to stay

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    Thanks for posting this Nigel. After reading and re-reading the "bricking" thread I had some concerns. We have to thank the early Roadster buyers for helping pave the road to these advances.
     
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    Yes, thank you early Roadster owners, especially 1-500, for being the pioneers and paving the way for the rest of us.
     
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    The Media is trying to ruin tesla =(
     
  8. Larry Chanin

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    #8 Larry Chanin, Feb 25, 2012
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    You are painting with a rather broad brush. Some media outlets such as Jalopnik seem to have an agenda. Others such as Green Car Reports have a more balanced approach. In most cases, especially on-line media, they are merely repeating other's accounts without any independent confirmation facts or refutation of distortions whatsoever.

    Larry
     
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    I do wonder why Jalopnik is such a douche.
     
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    People fear change. If it was the late 1800's they'd be saying the same thing about ICEs. "Only rich people can afford them." "The range is terrible." "There aren't enough places to refuel them." "If you smoke around them they will catch on fire and explode!" (Replace smoke with "leave unplugged" and catch on fire with "bricked" and you have the EV version).
     
  11. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    The five stages of grief (denial/anger/negotiation/depression/acceptance) are based on the stages people go through to accept any change. You're absolutely right - people fear change and many times we don't even recognize it as that.

    Take for instance how we (almost) all reacted to the falcon doors. I knew I was getting an X, but I stood there at the unveiling thinking, 'do I like those?? why am I feeling negative? is there anything wrong with them other than they're different? .. etc' ... and a few days later, we're all over our initial falcon door reaction because (my theory, anyway) they look familiar.

    We are all rather amusing. :)
     
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    I always thought that if you smoked, you brick yourself....
     
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    #13 zack, Feb 25, 2012
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    Tesla: You can't 'brick' Model S batteries

    Never mind. I've been out of town for a while with spotty connections and was unaware of the brick stories until tonight.
     
  14. Eberhard

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    i was just a few days away and put the car to storage mode with 90km IR left. When i returned, i got the error msg #286 "power train error, service required". charging was aborted and the LED was flashing red. The IR dropped to 75km within 5 days. What would happen if i where 6 weeks away. I did charging according to the manual, using my UMC cable on 32A socket.
     
  15. Norbert

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    According to this post: battery lifetime

    storage mode will let the SOC drop to 20 %, or according to this thread:

    Storage Mode

    to 40 miles. That's 64 km. Yours was still higher at 75 km, so the charger not coming on might have been normal behavior. You should first talk to Tesla if the red flashing LEDs was just to alert you of the power train error, which might be a separate issue and there doesn't seem to be any indication it would have interfered with storage mode charging at 20%.
     
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    I remember when audiophiles thought CDs were trash and the LP records were the only way to listen to music. To me an ICE is like an old record and Electrics are the new digital age. And with Brent oil at $125/barrel the conversion to Electrics have a nice tail wind.
     
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    Get A Horse | The Old Motor

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    I would think Tesla would have handled your case very differently if that did happen. You did everything right and an error on the car came up. I would hope Tesla would just replace everything under warranty. I guess it's probably a good idea to charge fully in standard mode and then leave it in storage mode when you leave just in case.
     
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    That's what I've done - and it's never discharged to the point where storage mode kicked in. I now have the Tattler installed (thanks, Scott451), so if I were gone longer, I'd definitely be pinging my car to get SOC.
     
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    I agree. It appears in Eberhard's case the car was plugged in and it was the error that aborted charging. That's a completely different situation from the guy in the brick story (who knowingly left the car unplugged for more than 2 months at 25% charge according to his letter).
     

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