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Model S "CPO" vs. Standard Model 3?
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aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Here it is. Please check the assumptions. For instance, I am retired. The cost of use of funds is small, 2% ,because I was able to justify using a portion of the cash in my portfolio to buy the car. If I was still working AND saving for retirement in a 401K with employer match, it would be 5-10x that amount. Reason why I have not bought a car in 17 years, and that is the families "new" car.
Having a problem uploading the file at the moment...
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
No, not in normmal driving, or in the the mountains or in the snow. However, I drive pretty conservatively. I just took it out of both range mode and chill mode for the FIRST time yesterday.
Fast became stupid fast, is the only difference. I can tell...
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
cannot upload a .xlxs or .xlx file for some
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CAR Value/cost MPGGE fuel cost/mi* miles/year Sales tax Title Insurance VLF tax Maint cost of funds fuel cost depreciation First year cost second year cost 5 year $/year change equiv rental days
Model S new 79800 100 0.07 8000 7980 246 2151 519 1000 1596 560 7980 22032 13926 60251 7418 49
Model S new** 89800 100 0.07 8000 8980 246 2151 584 1000 1796 560 8980 24297 14191 65476 9769 65
Model S used** 58100 100 0.04 8000 5520 246 1392 378 750 1162 280 4000 13728 7562 38330 3034 20
Model 3 new 53500 100 0.07 8000 5350 246 1521 348 1000 1070 560 5350 15445 9849 43359 4040 27
Model 3 new** 63500 100 0.07 8000 6350 246 1521 413 1000 1270 560 6350 17710 11114 48584 5085 34
02 Lexus 5000 18 0.23 8000 0 522 170 1500 100 1840 500 4632 4632 23160 0 0
95 Integra 3000 27 0.16 5000 0 566 100 1500 60 800 300 3326 3326 16630 -1306
03 Prius 3000 42 0.09 5000 0 700 100 1000 60 446 300 2606 2606 13032 -2026
MPGGE - Miles Per Gas Gallon Equivalent
Estimated
Savings over Lexus
*No free charging for new Teslas, assume 50% supercharging for used
**Does not include tax rebates
Actual costs
Planned Usage
Assume $0.23/Kwh
and 300 Wh/mile
Tessie monthly cost 252.8
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CAR Value/cost MPGGE fuel cost/mi* miles/year Sales tax Title Insurance VLF tax Maint cost of funds fuel cost depreciation First year cost second year cost 5 year $/year change equiv rental days
Model S new 79800 100 0.07 8000 7980 246 2151 519 1000 1596 560 7980 22032 13926 60251 7418 49
Model S new** 89800 100 0.07 8000 8980 246 2151 584 1000 1796 560 8980 24297 14191 65476 9769 65
Model S used** 58100 100 0.04 8000 5520 246 1392 378 750 1162 280 4000 13728 7562 38330 3034 20
Model 3 new 53500 100 0.07 8000 5350 246 1521 348 1000 1070 560 5350 15445 9849 43359 4040 27
Model 3 new** 63500 100 0.07 8000 6350 246 1521 413 1000 1270 560 6350 17710 11114 48584 5085 34
02 Lexus 5000 18 0.23 8000 0 522 170 1500 100 1840 500 4632 4632 23160 0 0
95 Integra 3000 27 0.16 5000 0 566 100 1500 60 800 300 3326 3326 16630 -1306
03 Prius 3000 42 0.09 5000 0 700 100 1000 60 446 300 2606 2606 13032 -2026
MPGGE - Miles Per Gas Gallon Equivalent
Estimated
Savings over Lexus
*No free charging for new Teslas, assume 50% supercharging for used
**Does not include tax rebates
Actual costs
Planned Usage
Assume $0.23/Kwh
and 300 Wh/mile
Tessie monthly cost 252.8
Hatch versus boot and general space was the the reason we ditched our M3 reservation and went for a MS. But we are a family of 4 with only 1 car, so it has to do everything.
Collecting winter wheels for example.
Collecting winter wheels for example.
rocketshipp85
Member
I’m not sure if you interested but I have a late 2012 85KWH that I’m looking to sell for around 30k if your interested.
OP here. I might be interested. I tried to PM you but it wouldn't let me - maybe because I'm too new to the forum. Could you message me?
BrokerDon
Active Member
Our Ludicrous 2015 MS P85D+ replaced BOTH our 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland SUV and our 2006 Corvette Z06 street legal track car... and fits not just one but TWO "big wheel" mountain bikes with all their wheels ON (front tires slipped in Mavic wheel bags to protect our seats):
- XXL Santa Cruz Hightower CC 27.5+ "fattie" (2.8" wide tires)
- M Santa Cruz Tallboy C 29" (2.3" tires)
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
And keep in mind, one could add a class 2 hitch, for cargo carrier, for dirty items like camping gear, firewood, etc. Not recommend by Tesla, but looking at the info provided by the hitch vendor, looks doable to me.
Chancellor32
Member
Tesla Supercharger Rate Calculator - Teslanomics
Based on 12,000 miles a year it would cost $844 to supercharge. FUSC would save you that $844, just enter your miles per year and see what the cost is. FUSC is worth whatever you cost would have been.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Unlikely that you would, or should, SC near 100 of the time. Good link though.
Was more interested in the spec of your SWEET RIDE! Veeeeery nice spec huh
Wow!"Pearl White P85D+, Tan NextGen Seats F&R, Pano Roof, Obeche Gloss Decor, Alcantra Headliner, CF Spoiler, 21" Silver Arachnid Wheels, Dual Chargers, Tech Package w/ Autopilot, SAS, Premium Interior Package, Ultra High Fidelity Sound, SubZero Weather Package"
Hey there fellow Ashevillian
I recently went through the same decision. I've had my P85D since it was new in 2015 (leased), and I had an M3 reservation. My lease was up last October and I chose to keep the P85D because of the nightmare QC/customer service issues Tesla has been having with the M3. Also, I absolutely still love my P85D and free supercharging for life is awesome (I've taken lots of really long road trips).
Side note, but it turns out that even if you already have the car, buying it out of the lease is also a customer service nightmare. Who knew!
I recently went through the same decision. I've had my P85D since it was new in 2015 (leased), and I had an M3 reservation. My lease was up last October and I chose to keep the P85D because of the nightmare QC/customer service issues Tesla has been having with the M3. Also, I absolutely still love my P85D and free supercharging for life is awesome (I've taken lots of really long road trips).
Side note, but it turns out that even if you already have the car, buying it out of the lease is also a customer service nightmare. Who knew!
I have - for the past three summers - driven my P85D from North Carolina to Colorado and back with my Specialized Demo 27.5 and my wife's Davinci Troy 27.5 on top.
There are a few long stretches where we had to be careful and charging definitely takes longer, but aside from that it's been great.Attachments
Have you ever been to the Blue Ridge EV Club meetings? Happy to send you an invite if not. We run the Drive Electric show at the outlets every fall, and do EV awareness stuff with the community.Hey there fellow Ashevillian
Also, please do let me know if you ever have an inkling to move out of your P85D and would like to sell it to a local!
BrokerDon
Active Member
I have - for the past three summers - driven my P85D from North Carolina to Colorado and back with my Specialized Demo 27.5 and my wife's Davinci Troy 27.5 on top.
Nice!
What's your W/mile consumption with your MTBs racked?
How do you remove the bugs?
Please do send an invite! I think I know one of the members but I've never been to an event.
And I'll definitely let you know if I need to get rid of it. My wife and I are currently downsizing and thinking of making a move to bigger mountains, so it's kind of tempting. That free supercharging for life is pretty amazing though!
BrokerDon
Active Member
Was more interested in the spec of your SWEET RIDE! Veeeeery nice spec huh
"Pearl White P85D+, Tan NextGen Seats F&R, Pano Roof, Obeche Gloss Decor, Alcantra Headliner, CF Spoiler, 21" Silver Arachnid Wheels, Dual Chargers, Tech Package w/ Autopilot, SAS, Premium Interior Package, Ultra High Fidelity Sound, SubZero Weather Package"
Thanks! We shopped nationwide for an "inventory" P85D with the exact spec & colors above since the day the P85D was announced. Our awesome sales guy was very patient but finally in frustration said we were dreaming... and the "mythological" P85D he named Pegasus ("a mythical winged divine stallion") was unrealistic as an "inventory" car but we persisted, searching daily. A couple of months later he called just before they closed on a Saturday and said he had found Pegasus in a Tesla Store showroom wiht only 2,905 miles on it just 10 miles away and was going on Tesla's inventory the following morning with an "inventory" discount. We got there when the store opened and transferred our ~ 3 year old $5,000 original deposit to it... and took delivery the next week.
Found out later it had the awesome Plus Suspension and had Tesla upgrade it to Ludicrous, so now it is a "unicorn" P85D+ especially with the rare super sporty NextGen "Recaro" Seats front and rear PLUS staggered Arachnid wheels and Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires.
Absolutely LOVE it.
I forget but it's A LOT. I'm thinking driving across Kansas we were steady between 500 and 600. Coming back I remember catching a tail wind which was nice.
For bugs, I pretty much just wipe it down with a wash cloth. Trestle Bike Park tends to add some dents and dings to my bike anyway, so I've never been one to worry too much.
