Hello all. First, the data: Curb weight, in pounds 4407 60 4721 70D 4630 85 4849 85D 4963 P85D This is from the owner's manual in the car. Here's my question: can you figure out the weight of components from this? For example, the difference between an 85 and an 85D is - the 85 has a heavier motor - the 85D has a front motor and associated electrical and mechanical drivetrain components Is it the exact same difference between a 60 and a 70D? If so, then the difference in battery pack weight seems to be 95 pounds. Does this provide evidence that the 70D has more cells, or is there a more energy density per cell but higher mass per cell 18650 available? How much do the two different types of motors weigh? How much do you think the additional drivetrain components for the front wheel drive weigh? What accounts for the difference between the 85D and P85D? Some of these questions may be difficult to answer due to different options coming standard with different models. For example, does the P85D weight assume 21" wheels? For a while there they were requiring 21" wheels with the P85D, though they seem to have changed their mind again on that. In short: does anyone actually know how much the different battery packs, motors, drive controllers and mechanical drivetrain components weigh?