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Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by shokunin, Dec 6, 2012.
I got an email because I couldn't answer the phone (I think).
nope: no phone call either.
I got the email and replied by asking if it would come before 12/20 because I'm leaving town for the holiday to visit my dad. They haven't replied. Pretty frustrated because I would normally say yes!!! but I'm committed to my dad's visit. Now I think I'll wait months past my delivery estimate in late January.
When they get to actually scheduling the exact date, don't they have to talk with the new owner anyway to make sure it's a time that works? Anyway, call (sorry, not sure what #)--maybe not too late.
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Heh, I mean, "maybe it's not too late (in general)"--I didn't mean "maybe 11 PM EST isn't too late. ;-) I don't know what crazy hours they keep.
I just spoke with Andy at Tesla. Apparently the call I missed Friday was an important one. Despite filling out the delivery questionnaire, he still needed to confirm and go over a few things with me. Details below; apologies for my typical rambling.
1. Regarding trade-ins, it sounds like they are doing this nationally with AutoNation, but he recommended I check for trade-in options at, say, CarMax--or selling it myself--due to AutoNation's low trade-in offers. The latter is what I've read here, too.
2. I'd checked service center pick-up, but he said in order to prevent a backlog of cars there awaiting pick-up, they will probably (?) direct ship it to me. Hmm, I forgot about how this may be an issue given my street; I'm going to e-mail him to warn him. They'll still send someone out to meet me and go over the car with me (so, the same delivery experience most folks have gotten, it sounds like); I hoped as much, given I'm maybe 30 minutes from the downtown DC store/service center!
3. A direct ship means it'll be officially sold in CA and temporarily registered there, but he said I would not pay CA tax--I'd pay MD tax--since they know I'm in MD/going to be using it in MD. This initially concerned me (MD tax credit!), but once he said I'd pay MD tax, I relaxed somewhat. The MD tax credit for EVs is on MD tax paid, so if I'm paying MD tax, I should be eligible for it, methinks. It's a weird situation, though, no doubt, and I hesitated. But ultimately I figured it would all work out somehow. (crossing fingers) Maryland explains it a bit confusingly:
The first part gives me pause, but the second (bold added by me) seems to indicate I should be okay. Plus, the form itself says:
This is clearer, IMHO; the issue is new versus used, so if I'm buying a new car and paying MD taxes, even if it's an out-of-state dealer, I should be okay. The information page is too wordy and implies that new-initially-titled-elsewhere is an issue, but it means used initially titled elsewhere. (One could argue, I suppose, that new-titled elsewhere is no longer new...but that's obviously not the spirit/intention here.) Sorry to ramble--this is the only part that gave/gives me pause.
4. As previously discussed, he mentioned that it might not arrive here till the first week of January (officially sold end-of-December, but shipping it to me adding time).
Anyway, my excitement's a bit tempered but ultimately...OMFG CAR! Yeah, I'm still excited. ;-)
I think you're right, @kendallpb. Some extra info from my experience in MA:
Although we think of Tesla Motors as an OEM, they are also a "car dealer" in that they have a dealer # that appears on the paperwork you'll get in appropriate places.
The Origin of Manufacture Certificate you'll receive makes it clear that the car's title has not been issued in any other state.
Those are the only two issues I could have seen arising from the text you quoted, and I think they're both properly addressable.
Thanks, Robert! The "registered in CA" is the main part that gave me pause. Interestingly, the form itself asks almost no info, just my name/address, make/model/year, and the VIN. I guess because they can look it all up from that.
And yeah, OEM versus dealer, especially in some states, confuses me. ;-)
My wife put the down payment on the car just to shut me up.
I have a roadster, live in Florida, and am coming to Fremont to visit the in-laws. I was told the factory tours are only available to new owner deliveries at this time, but they can bring guests along
If you are taking a factory delivery between 12/23 and 1/1 at the factory and would be interested in letting some complete strangers tag along for the factory tour, please message me here or email me at [email protected].
I have similar concerns in Hawaii. I guess most of us do, to some extent. I tried to understand the HI DMV rules but gave up with a headache. If HI follows a similar pattern as MD/MA I should be good. hopefully they ship before 2013.
Small update: I was wrong; no DS for me, psniff. I'll get a phone consult to go over safety things, but:
No big problem, although these weird little things are adding up to be a little irritating and make me nervous. Sale/reg'd in CA...but I pay MD tax, direct ship without DS...but I'll get an in-January walkthrough, "get my car in December"...but it'll probably come the first week of January, I have to figure out a good place for an 18-wheeler to drop off my car, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited, but there's just enough little weird things that my other half is like "okay that's just weird" which makes me nervous.
It doesn't help that neither of us understand why apparently lots of people didn't want December, especially when almost everyone given the option seems to be jumping on the option. ;-) I think Tesla's "December surprise" e-mail just oversimplified things is all. Nothing nefarious! I just wish some of these little things were more transparent/made more sense. And they are definitely more hyper about the "sale" technically being in December, even if the delivery isn't, than I am. ;-)
But anyway! (shaking self) I signed up for it and these are small things (most of them total non-issues, honestly!). Only a few more weeks! W00T! Still can't wait. :-D
w00t! I just got the delivery button!!!
12/15 - 12/31.
I sent [email protected] not sure if it's a coincidence or not.
Ah man! I am in the same boat but still no button
I even tried the "Hey, I live in Vegas! Who doesn't want to hang out in Vegas for a couple days delivering a car?"
@jiaotong, I'm also in Vegas and have made contact with one other S owner to be. PM me if interested in having an S party once we've all taken delivery. I don't think there are too many of us.
didn't work with Hawaii, won't work with Vegas. They gave me a delivery window then pushed it back a month 1 day later.
Tried to go check, but the Tesla site is currently down. Maybe they're updating their database, gotta stay optimistic
Looks like I will roll off the production line on 12/28 and take delivery about 1/11. Why oh why did I press the YES button? I think I was pretty close to those dates anyway given I finalized on 10/6. Wondering if I can take it back and say 2013 since that is when I will get the car anyway. Dunno.
This is the exact information that my DS gave me when we spoke over the phone. I guess my excitement to get the car is overcoming my common sense about what I "expect" from a 100k purchase. Eitherway, getting the car sooner is better in my book. Maybe we will be on the same truck given our proximity.
The big bonus for me is being able to claim the $7500 on this years taxes. We are a bit short on deductions this year so this will help quite a bit.
Heh, I know what you mean, but . . .
Indeed! I've thought "hmm, why am I rushing--could've lived with March or whatevs." Then I think that I am obsessing about the car and spending so much time on the boards that I really need to get it sooner rather than later. It'll be like a shot of valium (relax, process is over and I have it!) and adrenaline (I HAVE IT!) all at once. ;-)
Possibly! I presume you have a similar timeframequoted, though your signature shows 1 month+2 days which would be mid-January...? I'll be monitoring and posting to the thread about deliver updates (and/or here).
My signature countdown is for the estimated delivery of the car that I was given by my product specialist. I have the standard 15-31 Dec 2012 window for completion of the car. My goodness this wait is killing me. It seems the closer the date gets the worse the wait seems.
To any/all Tesla employees reading this - I've got money burning a hole in my pocket Tesla! Come and get it.