Wow, that thing is fugly. Looks like a slug with a really cheap and (gaudy?) strange front fascia.
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Wow, that thing is fugly. Looks like a slug with a really cheap and (gaudy?) strange front fascia.
My current vehicle is 10 years old, no rust and most importantly no payment. I take good care of it and will keep it. I got FSD before it went to 10k. So depending on years I could be as low as $90 a month or as high as $110 a month. My wife’s car has driver assist. I find that fascinating. Born 1967 so ya know
It’s sort of like me claiming I can bench press 400lbs. You then search online and only find videos of me bench pressing 330. Since I seem like honest guy, you want to take my word for it but weighing only 170 pounds, it’s hard to believe. And because it’s so impressive, I would be quick to post videos so people wouldn’t have to speculate. If I kept saying I have a cold or I hurt my shoulder, some will think I’m full of sh-t. Btw I can’t press 400 ha. Just an example.
do you u even lift, bro?
Yeah, I get that I am getting played to some degree, I do feel like they will get it "close enough" in the next 4-5 years and, as I geek, I know I will want it and I'd rather pay the $10K now than whatever it is in the futureThis is called "FOMO pricing" as a way to get customers to pay for a product that doesn't exist. I refuse to buy it on principle. Also, they won't let people transfer it to new cars, why do you think that is?
Building SW is my day job, so I understand Tesla's PoV here. If you buy FSD and then it sticks with you, then that is all the money Tesla will ever get out of you for FSD. The problem is it is likely you will continue to want feature enhancements, bug fixes, etc so where does the R&D funding for that come from. If you say "from new buyers" you've essentially described a Ponzi scheme of sorts which will eventually collapse. As you note, the current approach is also problematic as its too biased in Telsa's favor and makes the buyer carry all the risk. Luckily, the dark arts of SW licensing are actually well understood and there are equitable approaches, just none that Tesla has chosen to explore right now.
IMO, at the very least, Tesla should allow a one-time transfer of the FSD for buyers of FSD until FSD is considered feature complete.
They got their hands slapped for the P85D HP numbers, maybe they learned a lesson?
sflgator
Active Member
He's brilliant but a bit of a child and quite inappropriate many times; could he be on the spectrum? I think it's very possible.
I would have happily held onto my P85 for a few more years if repair costs were not so out of wacky, but the cost of a new DU or pack is more than the car is worth.
sflgator
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That is UGLY as sin! Boo. Shame on MB!! The interior may be high-tech and a bit confusing but the exterior is just plain FUGLY. Eeew!
They should've made the production EQS very close to the EQS Concept vehicle design!!!
I completely understand your point. What Tesla needs to do is find a way to get fsd into more hands without forcing people to buy on a per car basis. Maybe like I mentioned attach to the profile and possibly do a yearly fee. If the feature was 100% complete and worked as Elon advertised we wouldn’t be having the discussion of fsd being worth the price. The majority of people on the fence about fsd don’t want to throw 10k for 1 car and then 2-3 years later they decide to upgrade to a new car and that 10k was lost while Tesla tested the software. Happy median would be until it’s 100% let us use it on all our cars with a potential small fee per year
I’m with you on this. Outside of Porsche and Audi the majority of electric cars being released are just plain ugly. It’s mostly the front bumpers and “grilles” that make them look like sh**. MB could’ve kept the same s class and added an electric motor and whole would’ve loved it.That is UGLY as sin! Boo. Shame on MB!! The interior may be high-tech and a bit confusing but the exterior is just plain FUGLY. Eeew!
Model S > EQS, easily
gadelrosario
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I'm not on Twitter much but couldn't resist a couple of snarky tweets today:
sflgator
Active Member
> $100k but not exactly sure since I had to close the tab...couldn't keep looking at the new EQS...it was making my eyes hurt and giving me a migraine. LOL!
I agree 100% with your statement. The etron gt is stunning but I wouldn’t buy it over a model s because of the tech, performance and how far along Tesla’s supercharger network is compared to its competitors. Dare I say I actually also prefer the interior of the new model s over any other vehicle
sflgator
Active Member
And range. VW/Porsche/Audi Evs are way behind on max battery range (at least as advertised and EPA ratings). Too bad...if the max battery range on the new Audi E-Tron GT RS would've been > 300 mi., I probably would've placed my order, although it's quite pricey > $150k loaded. A bit much.
I agree - the new Model S interior is my favorite from what we can see of it. I like the minimalism approach, whenever I get rental cars after my Model 3, I nearly have a heart attack looking at all the buttons and what not. Also, it's funny seeing tiny little 8, 9 , 10 inch screens that are laggy as *sugar* on cars now.
IDK - personally, I don't think I could go back to a traditional looking car on the inside. I've been driving around a Volt which feel cramped (no moon roof), a decent chunk of buttons on the steering wheel (no idea what the hell they are for) and a screen that I was annoyed with the very minute I started interacting with it. Not fast, not precise and lacked any real usefulness as the backup camera is way too small to see anything.
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