Wiki Model S Delivery Update

[Ramphex]

Oh and the fact that my SA in person (when we went to test drive a MY) was all like “oh please contact me with any questions you have or any rumors you want me to clear up” is kind of pissing me off. I emailed her 7 days ago with some rumors/questions I was curious about, and she has yet to answer. Worthless employee - literally only there to help people through the configurator and bring around a car to test drive (even couldn’t do that right without grabbing the wrong key)

 

[eipi10]

Same here, was showing August since my order date including this morning, now no EDD.

The phrase "stringing along" comes to mind. A typical practice of fraudsters. First it was February/March for me. Then March. Then July. Then August. Now, who knows. Whatever it is will be another lie, and the Tesla stans will attribute it to yet another "parts shortage."

 

[Electric Magic]

This is still strange to me about your account

My account has had the “Agreements” section (says we will be able to review and accept agreements within 24 from delivery appointment) since having an appointment scheduled. I had even reviewed and accepted them yesterday (my original appointment was for today @ 11AM).

 

[Tholland]

My account has had the “Agreements” section (says we will be able to review and accept agreements within 24 from delivery appointment) since having an appointment scheduled. I had even reviewed and accepted them yesterday (my original appointment was for today @ 11AM).

Ahhh ok, makes sense. That must be where we accept the car for delivery and it will appear in the app after payment is made. However with the MS delivery hold in place, that’s why nothing is moving. Got it. I just hope that this hold is still in place FOR MY ORDER until next Wednesday. And can take delivery Friday or Saturday

 

[yerEVan]

SOMEBODY WITH 19” PLEASE GET A VIN!!!

What is wrong with you people?!?
Hurry up!!!

Sorry. My meds ran out.

 

[FlatSix911]

No round steering wheel for you! I would imagine that some aftermarket companies are now working on third-party options,

Elon Musk confirms Tesla will not offer a regular steering wheel on new Model S/X

Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla will not offer a regular steering wheel option on new Model S and Model...

electrek.co

"CEO Elon Musk later confirmed that Tesla is indeed working on progressive steering, but it’s still years away. Until then, some believed that Tesla might offer a standard round steering wheel as an option, but the CEO confirmed today that it will not. Musk insists that the yoke steering wheel is worth it for offering better visibility of the instrument cluster and its driving visualizations. If you do a quick pros and cons list for the yoke wheel, it’s pretty simple. For me, the pros include the improved visibility, and it just looks cool. As for the cons, it is obviously not ideal for low speeds and for quick maneuvers in case of slipping:"

 

[Ormond]

No round steering wheel for you!

Elon Musk confirms Tesla will not offer a regular steering wheel on new Model S/X

Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla will not offer a regular steering wheel option on new Model S and Model...

electrek.co

"CEO Elon Musk later confirmed that Tesla is indeed working on progressive steering, but it’s still years away. Until then, some believed that Tesla might offer a standard round steering wheel as an option, but the CEO confirmed today that it will not. Musk insists that the yoke steering wheel is worth it for offering better visibility of the instrument cluster and its driving visualizations. If you do a quick pros and cons list for the yoke wheel, it’s pretty simple. For me, the pros include the improved visibility, and it just looks cool. As for the cons, it is obviously not ideal for low speeds and for quick maneuvers in case of slipping:"

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I wonder if they’ll change their mind if Consumer Reports and/or the IHSS gives out a lower safety rating due to the design.

 

[CWhite]

I'm confused about the EPA ratings. Here are two example from the EPA site:

• MS LR 19", EPA Range = 405 Mi., EPA 28 kWh/100 Mi. (.28kWh/Mi.). That implies a battery pack size of 113.4 kWh!
• MS Plaid 21", EPA Range = 348 Mi., EPA 33 kWh/100 Mi. (.33kWh/Mi). That implies a battery pack size of 121.8 kWh!

Can someone please tell my what I'm doing wrong? It seems to me that if a car consumes .28 kWh/Mi. and the battery pack is 100 kWh, then the range would be 100(kWh)/.28(kWh/Mi.)=357 Mi. for the LR 19" and 100(kWh)/.33(kWh/Mi.)=303 Mi. for the Plaid 21"
Source:

Compare Side-by-Side

Compare the MPG of cars and trucks side-by-side. Compare the gas mileage and greenhouse gas emissions of new and used cars and trucks

www.fueleconomy.gov

I believe the EPA uses ‘outlet to car’ power usage which means they account for the efficiency of the charging(92%?). Makes it hard to work out battery size. Everything I have seen points to a battery of 100 kWh or maybe even a bit less.

 

[Drew-MS]

I'm confused about the EPA ratings. Here are two example from the EPA site:

• MS LR 19", EPA Range = 405 Mi., EPA 28 kWh/100 Mi. (.28kWh/Mi.). That implies a battery pack size of 113.4 kWh!
• MS Plaid 21", EPA Range = 348 Mi., EPA 33 kWh/100 Mi. (.33kWh/Mi). That implies a battery pack size of 121.8 kWh!

Can someone please tell my what I'm doing wrong? It seems to me that if a car consumes .28 kWh/Mi. and the battery pack is 100 kWh, then the range would be 100(kWh)/.28(kWh/Mi.)=357 Mi. for the LR 19" and 100(kWh)/.33(kWh/Mi.)=303 Mi. for the Plaid 21"
Source:

Compare Side-by-Side

Compare the MPG of cars and trucks side-by-side. Compare the gas mileage and greenhouse gas emissions of new and used cars and trucks

www.fueleconomy.gov

With a 100kw pack, I'm pretty sure only 95-96kw is usable.
The MS LR 19" is 405 miles
The MS Plaid with 19" is 396 miles

 

[Moose57]

Story

ALERTS HISTORY TESLA PUTS NEW MODEL S DELIVERIES ON HOLD - ELECTREK - Reuters - 6:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time Jul 23, 2021 BRIEF-Tesla Puts New Model S Deliveries On Hold - ElectrekReuters6:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time Jul 23, 2021 July 23 (Reuters) - • TESLA PUTS NEW MODEL S DELIVERIES ON HOLD - ELECTREK Further company coverage: [TSLA.O] (( [email protected]) (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2021. Click For Restrictions - https://agency.reuters.com/en/copyright.html

 

[FlatSix911]

Fremont, we have a problem! Let's hope that Tesla can resolve the delivery issue quickly.

Tesla puts new Model S deliveries on hold, and it's unclear why

Tesla Model S buyers are complaining that they can’t take delivery of their new electric vehicles as they are told...

electrek.co

"Several new Tesla Model S buyers have told Electrek and posted to forums about how they are being told by Tesla that there’s a “hold” on delivering the new vehicle. Buyers who have been waiting for months for their new vehicles were told that they finally arrived at their local delivery centers, but Tesla wasn’t able to deliver them.
They are being told a bunch of different excuses for them not being able to complete the delivery, but the common thread appears to be that there’s a “hold” on new Model S. Several buyers are being told that the delay is due to “new inspection standards” (via hsien88·on Reddit):

However, Tesla is not telling them what they are inspecting and why it can’t give a new delivery date. Based on buyer reports, the hold appears to be in place since last weekend. Some buyers have expressed concerns that it could related to the Tesla Model S Plaid fire from last month, but there’s no clear evidence of that at the moment. CEO Elon Musk has previously commented that one of the reasons for the delay between the launch in January and the start of deliveries in June was to “make sure that the Model S’ new battery pack was safe.”

 

[Hayseed_MS]

I wonder if they’ll change their mind if Consumer Reports and/or the IHSS gives out a lower safety rating due to the design.

Why would they? Is there a safety issue?

 

[FlatSix911]

Why would they? Is there a safety issue?

No one outside Tesla knows... only speculation at this point.

 

[Hayseed_MS]

No one outside Tesla knows... only speculation at this point.

I meant is there a safety issue with the design that would warrant to lower a safety rating? I do not think it is related at all to the hold. More yoke drama...

 

[FlatSix911]

I meant is there a safety issue with the design that would warrant to lower a safety rating? I do not think it is related at all to the hold. More yoke drama...

Agreed... I was referring to the delivery hold drama.

 

[MFrunkerOG]

This
BTW they will be less than $4,500 with Pilot Spirt 4S’ (Flow Formed rims).

well.... if you're doing flow forged, then yes under $4500, but lets say you do full forged (e.g. sweet sweet TS5 from Tiitan 7) those will run about $3300 for the wheels plus $1200 for the tires.... umm... yes $4500 ... and they'll take 10lbs off each corner!

i bought Tsportline aftermarkets on my current S in 2016... i didnt know then about things like weights as i know now... My 19' Tsportlines have been awesome, but they're just as heavy as the OEMs. If i had to do it again, I would be maniacal about losing unsprung weight (on the car, ie)

 

[MFrunkerOG]

Oh and the fact that my SA in person (when we went to test drive a MY) was all like “oh please contact me with any questions you have or any rumors you want me to clear up” is kind of pissing me off. I emailed her 7 days ago with some rumors/questions I was curious about, and she has yet to answer. Worthless employee - literally only there to help people through the configurator and bring around a car to test drive (even couldn’t do that right without grabbing the wrong key)

say it with me.... woo... saah!

 

[FlatSix911]

I wonder if they’ll change their mind if Consumer Reports and/or the IHSS gives out a lower safety rating due to the design.

It will be interesting to see how CR scores the new safety rating for the Tesla Plaid.
There are a few race cars from Porsche and Ferrari that can be ordered with a yoke-type track wheel... but CR will never test those examples.

 

[d1ez3]

This "Review Agreements" is new for me

@Tholland

 

[MFrunkerOG]

This "Review Agreements" is new for me

@Tholland

wait... you have 19s... you got a VIN ???? how else would you do insurance in FL ?