Model S Goodyear Eagle replacement tires VERY hard to find

[dweeks]

My 4 month old 90D came with Goodyear Eagle Touring 245/45 R 19 tires.

Three days ago, I picked up a nail dead center in the middle of the tread (no sidewall damage at all), and the tire has a slow leak (3-5 PSI loss overnight), so it's still driveable.

I go to the local tire shop, and when the tech pulls the tire off the rim, he sees a layer of foam on the inside circumference of the tire. He's never seen this. The boss comes over to look, and says that due to the foam, he won't repair the nail hole. He does not know what the foam is for.

Boss sends me to the Goodyear store down the street. Now it gets odd...The man behind the Goodyear counter cannot find this tire in the Goodyear web site. He calls various Goodyear numbers, and no one can find this exact tire anywhere in the Goodyear system! They won't/can't tell me if the tire can be repaired or not.

While the agent is making still more calls to various Goodyear numbers, I call Tire Rack. The agent sees the tire in his system, but they are out of stock with no ETA for future deliveries.

I call Tesla Scottsdale, and they have...1...in stock. I buy it, and it'll be shipped to me in Flagstaff middle of the week.

I tell the Tesla service guy (who was very helpful) that it's odd that Tesla is shipping (almost) new cars with tires that can't be easily be replaced. What I I had been out on a the road, and the tire was totally unserviceable? He tells me that all new Teslas come with the foam lining in the tire for road noise reduction, and it could be that the tires are built by Goodyear to Tesla specs, and that could be why they don't generally show up in Goodyear or Tire Rack or Discount Tire inventory systems.

Be aware that if you have Eagle Touring 245/45 R 19 tires, you will probably have trouble getting one replaced.

I welcome any comments!

 

[zambono]

No comments there are discussions here of people trying to figure out specs on the tire. How much was it?

 

[techmaven]

I surprised that they won't fix it. I suspect it is just that it is unfamiliar, so they freaked out.

The Goodyear tire is hardly the first with foam on the inside. Continental has been shipping tires with ContiSilent which is basically also foam on the inside.

http://www.continental-tires.com/car/technology/contisilent

 

[dweeks]

No comments there are discussions here of people trying to figure out specs on the tire. How much was it?

$180 for the tire, and $20 for shipping.

 

[kort677]

Be aware that if you have Eagle Touring 245/45 R 19 tires, you will probably have trouble getting one replaced.

I welcome any comments!

I could be looking at the wrong tire but a quick google search turned numerous sources.

 

[SoccerMan94043]

Why not buy a patch kit and put a plug in yourself?

 

[omarsultan]

I have the Conti's with the foam. I caught a drywall screw I the tread. The local tire store did not initially know what to do with the foam, but ended up grinding out enough of the foam to apply the patch, then rebalanced and remounted the tire. I talked to my SC and they were cool what the tire store did.

 

[TaoJones]

$180 for the tire, and $20 for shipping.

See if they'll sell you 4 more at that price, which is the price Tesla gets for the old Goodyear OEM (Eagle RS A-2).

The Tire Rack price for the Goodyear Eagle Touring tire was $285 per, iirc. No tread warranty listed.

Interesting to know that the Touring 19s have foam in them.

I just secured a set of Goodyear Eagle RS A-2s for $481 out the door (for installation at the end of the month), but have no illusions that they're going to last more than 35,000 miles or so (the average of a fair bit of anecdotal evidence). And they're not as good as the Michelins, which makes me even more curious about the new Goodyears. If made to Tesla spec, then why no tread warranty? Hmmmm.

Do you find the tires to be quieter than those during your test drive?

 

[ReturnZero]

$180 for the tire seems like a really good price. Does anyone know if the 21" tires come with foam as well, and what the replacement cost is for those?

 

[SomeJoe7777]

Tire Rack looks like they have the Tesla-specific Goodyear Eagle Touring tires. These are 245/45R19, spec "TO", which is Tesla-specific:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...toYear=2016&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=90D

These are $248.20 each. The standard Goodyear Eagle Touring tires are $265.35 each:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...toYear=2016&autoModel=Model S&autoModClar=90D

I'm speculating, but I'll bet the Tesla-specific model is the one with the foam in it.

 

[TaoJones]

Eeeeeeeenteresting.

Less than the OEM Michelins but with foam and no tread life warranty.

Hmmmmm.

Can't wait for some owner feedback after 20,000 miles or so.

 

[PCMc]

One other thing to watch on the tire spec for these is the speed rating. I also have these on my 2016 MS 90D and they have a 98W rating code. Looking at the information on Tire Rack's site is a difference in the speed rating for the TO Tesla specific version from the "general" version. The TO version has the 98W rating where the "general" version is a 98V.

Per DOT rating scale, the W speed rating is up to 168 mph where the V speed rating is up to 149 mph. Given the MS 90D is rated to a top speed of 155 mph, that would explain Tesla specific version being a W rated tire.

One can debate that for the way most folks drive their cars on a regular basis that the difference between a V and W rated tire is not important, but some really good tire shops that are paying attention might decline installing the generic version for you.

 

[patrick40363]

My 4 month old 90D came with Goodyear Eagle Touring 245/45 R 19 tires.

Three days ago, I picked up a nail dead center in the middle of the tread (no sidewall damage at all), and the tire has a slow leak (3-5 PSI loss overnight), so it's still driveable.

I go to the local tire shop, and when the tech pulls the tire off the rim, he sees a layer of foam on the inside circumference of the tire. He's never seen this. The boss comes over to look, and says that due to the foam, he won't repair the nail hole. He does not know what the foam is for.

Boss sends me to the Goodyear store down the street. Now it gets odd...The man behind the Goodyear counter cannot find this tire in the Goodyear web site. He calls various Goodyear numbers, and no one can find this exact tire anywhere in the Goodyear system! They won't/can't tell me if the tire can be repaired or not.

While the agent is making still more calls to various Goodyear numbers, I call Tire Rack. The agent sees the tire in his system, but they are out of stock with no ETA for future deliveries.

I call Tesla Scottsdale, and they have...1...in stock. I buy it, and it'll be shipped to me in Flagstaff middle of the week.

I tell the Tesla service guy (who was very helpful) that it's odd that Tesla is shipping (almost) new cars with tires that can't be easily be replaced. What I I had been out on a the road, and the tire was totally unserviceable? He tells me that all new Teslas come with the foam lining in the tire for road noise reduction, and it could be that the tires are built by Goodyear to Tesla specs, and that could be why they don't generally show up in Goodyear or Tire Rack or Discount Tire inventory systems.

Be aware that if you have Eagle Touring 245/45 R 19 tires, you will probably have trouble getting one replaced.

I welcome any comments!

Are you sure the tire is the same as what you have? The $180 Goodyear tire used to be original tires on Tesla. They don't have the foam.

 

[jimtelsa]

I have the original Goodyears on my 2013

Nice to know the new Touring tires have the foam and are cheaper than the Michelins.

Learn something new everyday

Note to self...Buy a tire repair kit.

 

[justaname]

Same thing happened to me today on my 4 month old Tesla S. A screw through the tread and the local tire store won't repair it. I found the tire at tirerack. The plan is to call the local tire shop to see if they can get a better deal, but I expect I will be ordering from Tirerack tomorrow.

 

[sorka]

Those goodyears are only $122 each on tirerack.com.

 

[jelloslug]

Those goodyears are only $122 each on tirerack.com.

Those are not the ones with the foam liner.

 

[sorka]

Those are not the ones with the foam liner.

Which are the ones with the foam liner? Whats the tire model? I ask because tirerack lists this and the primacy as the two OE tires and nothing else.

 

[SomeJoe7777]

TireRack OEM Telsa Model S Tires:

19", 245/45R19:

GoodYear Eagle RS-A2 - High-Performance All-Season, used originally on model years 2012-2013
Michelin Primacy MXM4 - Grand Touring All-Season, used originally on model years 2014-2015
GoodYear Eagle Touring, TO Telsa - Grand Touring All-Season with sound reduction foam, 2016-present
Pirelli SottoZero 3 - Performance Winter/Snow, not included with vehicle, but available in Tesla online store

21" Square setup, 245/35R21:

Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 - Max Performance Summer
Michelin Pilot Super Sport - Max Performance Summer
Michelin Pilot Super Sport, TO Tesla - Max Performance Summer with sound reduction foam (brand new)
Continental ExtremeContact DW - Max Performance Summer
Continental ContisportContact 5 - Max Performance Summer
Continental ContisportContact 5 - Max Performance Summer with sound reduction foam
Pirelli SottoZero 3 - Performance Winter/Snow, not included with vehicle, but available in Telsa online store

21" Staggered Setup, 245/35R21 front, 265/35R21 rear:

Michelin Pilot Super Sport, TO Tesla - Max Performance Summer with sound reduction foam (brand new)
Continental ContisportContact 5 - Max Performance Summer with sound reduction foam

 

[sorka]

TireRack OEM Telsa Model S Tires:

19", 245/45R19:

GoodYear Eagle RS-A2 - High-Performance All-Season, used originally on model years 2012-2013
Michelin Primacy MXM4 - Grand Touring All-Season, used originally on model years 2014-2015
GoodYear Eagle Touring, TO Telsa - Grand Touring All-Season with sound reduction foam, 2016-present
Pirelli SottoZero 3 - Performance Winter/Snow, not included with vehicle, but available in Tesla online store

21" Square setup, 245/35R21:

Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 - Max Performance Summer
Michelin Pilot Super Sport - Max Performance Summer
Michelin Pilot Super Sport, TO Tesla - Max Performance Summer with sound reduction foam (brand new)
Continental ExtremeContact DW - Max Performance Summer
Continental ContisportContact 5 - Max Performance Summer
Continental ContisportContact 5 - Max Performance Summer with sound reduction foam
Pirelli SottoZero 3 - Performance Winter/Snow, not included with vehicle, but available in Telsa online store

21" Staggered Setup, 245/35R21 front, 265/35R21 rear:

Michelin Pilot Super Sport, TO Tesla - Max Performance Summer with sound reduction foam (brand new)
Continental ContisportContact 5 - Max Performance Summer with sound reduction foam

The RS-AS2 and MXM4 are what come up as OEM tires when I select my 2015 P85D.