HankLloydRight
No Roads
Or the connection is just really flaky as I've experienced... And it's just coincidence that it just dropped at that moment and you assumed causation.
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Or the connection is just really flaky as I've experienced... And it's just coincidence that it just dropped at that moment and you assumed causation.
TMS
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I usually connect my 4G Flatrate WiFi hotspot after I start driving, and it always connects without any problems. I use it to provide Internet for my family while ensuring an alternative faster 4G connection for my Model S (using another carrier) as opposed to its native 3G connection.
The car also connects to my Nexus 5X Android hotspot without any problems. The only case I found that prevents a successful connection to a Wifi hotspot is when you use a VPN in your hotspot, probably because Tesla itself uses a VPN connection to communicate with the car.
Some important tips regarding WiFi connectivity of the Model S: Always use the lowest channel available (best 1-6), and use WAP2 Personal-AES for encryption, allow auto (B,G,N) WiFi protocols and limit the bandwidth to 20MHz. as Tesla doesn't support 40MHz.
The car also connects to my Nexus 5X Android hotspot without any problems. The only case I found that prevents a successful connection to a Wifi hotspot is when you use a VPN in your hotspot, probably because Tesla itself uses a VPN connection to communicate with the car.
Some important tips regarding WiFi connectivity of the Model S: Always use the lowest channel available (best 1-6), and use WAP2 Personal-AES for encryption, allow auto (B,G,N) WiFi protocols and limit the bandwidth to 20MHz. as Tesla doesn't support 40MHz.
Thanks, that works for me. I'd only use it if I lost cell connectivity in the middle of nowhere anyway. Appreciate the confirmation.
I wonder what Tesla's reason for doing that is.
Or maybe it's just an unintended behavior.
i was contemplating the $500 LTE upgrade but honestly, since there are no useful integrated apps i dont the the point. the 3G works well enough for what the Nav and build in browsers do. i find the browser unusable even when connected to wifi. its just too slow. so all you use the data for is radio, navigation and data downloads and 3G does that just fine.
4G/LTE does it a little faster. It was included in my build but I think $500 is a very fair deal particularly from Tesla.
My guess is that they believe that if you are moving to drive you are leaving the location with WiFi. Might as well get on the cell network ASAP so that there isn't a lag 2 blocks down the road.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Fusion
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SSD420
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I know a bit off topic from this thread, but as a Tesla newbie myself (MX delivery next month!), has Tesla ever mentioned that they would ever stop paying for internet in the S or X. I've always been told that it comes with the car, and that's it. I never thought that one day they may turn it off.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
ok, maybe not "phenomenal" but I found it well worth the upgrade price. I know some people don't agree.
But while driving on long road trips in unfamiliar areas, the ability to quickly zoom in and out on the maps, and not have them take 30-45 second to redraw with 3G is significant to me. With LTE, it's more like 5 to 10 seconds. And that's just the street maps, not terrain.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
More than a year ago, Tesla said it will be free for the next 5(?) years, so we have a few years left in that. After that, nobody knows if they'll extend free access or set up some sort of billing system for it. I suspect the former until at least the Model 3 is released.
Also, it's not just the additional bandwidth speed, in my area I get more range with LTE and 4G than with 3G. This is especially important when driving through the desert and mountain areas in Southern Calufornia. All in all $500 ain't that bad a deal.
At least it's not GMs model:
Vehicle buyers will get three months of 4G service or up to 3 gigabytes of use, whichever comes first.
After the trial period, owners can pay for the service on a sliding scale based on usage. Those who already subscribe to OnStar's existing safety and security service or its navigation service will pay lower rates for some monthly plans.
• 200 megabytes (enough to stream about six hours of music or use the Internet for 13 hours): $5 for OnStar subscribers; $10 for non-subscribers.
• 1 GB: $15 for subscribers; $20 for non-subscribers.
• 3 GB: $30 for subscribers and non-subscribers.
• 5 GB: $50 for subscribers and non-subscribers.
GM also will offer one-time purchases of $5 a day (for subscribers) and $10 (non-subscribers) for 250 MB of use and $150 (subscribers) and $200 (non-subscribers) for a month of up to 10 GB.
Vehicle buyers will get three months of 4G service or up to 3 gigabytes of use, whichever comes first.
After the trial period, owners can pay for the service on a sliding scale based on usage. Those who already subscribe to OnStar's existing safety and security service or its navigation service will pay lower rates for some monthly plans.
• 200 megabytes (enough to stream about six hours of music or use the Internet for 13 hours): $5 for OnStar subscribers; $10 for non-subscribers.
• 1 GB: $15 for subscribers; $20 for non-subscribers.
• 3 GB: $30 for subscribers and non-subscribers.
• 5 GB: $50 for subscribers and non-subscribers.
GM also will offer one-time purchases of $5 a day (for subscribers) and $10 (non-subscribers) for 250 MB of use and $150 (subscribers) and $200 (non-subscribers) for a month of up to 10 GB.
SSD420
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SSD420
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Apples and oranges. You can't use Fords model since Tesla is a connected vehicle. OTA is Tesla's primary means of support. Also,Tesla benefits from receiving data back from each vehicle so they are not going to cut it off. What they might do is start forcing users to pay for their own subscriptions to apps like Slacker but unless they plan on fixing their AM/FM radio reception they still need to provide and pay for TuneIn.
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