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Model S Nominated for North American Car of the Year (2013)

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Citizen-T, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. clmason

    clmason Member

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    Toyoya RAV4 EV is also nominated in their Truck/Utility category. Chalk up 2 points for Tesla.
     
  2. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    I'm not a big fan of "MPGe", but it's an interesting number to compare nonetheless.

    Quick MPG/MPGe list from scanning Edmunds:
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     28 Acura ILX
    ~30 BMW 3-Series Sedan
     24 BMW 6-Series Gran Coupe
     ?? Cadillac ATS
     21 Cadillac XTS
     29 Chevrolet Malibu
     ?? Chevrolet Spark
     29 Dodge Dart
     30 Ford Fusion
    [COLOR="#008000"]105 Ford Focus Electric[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="#008000"]118 Honda Fit EV[/COLOR]
     23 Hyundai Azera
     31 Hyundai Elantra GT
     ?? Kia Cadenza
     22 Lexus ES
     23 Lexus GS
     28 Lincoln MKZ
     24 Mazda 6
     19 Mercedes SL Class
     31 Nissan Altima
     27 Nissan Sentra
     21 Porsche 911
     23 Porsche Boxster
     25 Scion FR-S
     ?? SRT Viper
     25 Subaru BRZ
     [COLOR="#008000"]89 Tesla Model S[/COLOR]
     ?? Toyota Avalon
     32 Toyota Yaris
    [COLOR="#008000"] 50 Toyota Prius C[/COLOR]
     
  3. Discoducky

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    It took me a second to notice that the car pictured on the link is not a Karma. They look very similar (the new Viper and Karma)
     
  4. PhatCat

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  5. spatterso911

    spatterso911 MSP#7577 **--** MX#1891

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    Hmmm, so of that list... The serious competitors include:

    Acura ILX - Not much impact in it's segment.
    BMW 3-Series - Always a strong contender
    BMW 6-Series Gran Coupe - poorly priced with moderate performance compared to it's segment leaders - Panamera V6, Merc CLS 550, Audi A7
    Cadillac ATS - Cadillac CUE and 2.0 turbo give BMW 3-series some competition
    Cadillac XTS - not very groundbreaking in it's segment
    Chevrolet Malibu - Could possibly be a contender, but some people would say the leap from last years model is minuscule compared to the impact the previous model had on its segment.
    Chevrolet Spark - Fairly innovative, but I'm more interested in what the Spark EV will do.
    Dodge Dart - Really??
    Ford Fusion - Segment leader, but not much innovation over the outgoing model except it's redesign
    Ford Focus Electric - American BEV from a major automaker with reasonable range.
    Honda Fit EV - MPGe is nice, but the rest of the car is kinda flat
    Hyundai Azera - How did this get nominated? It's kinda milk toast for it's segment
    Hyundai Elantra GT - Just read the review in Motor Trend. Would not be a strong contender
    Kia Cadenza - 2014 models are getting nominated?? This car is milk toast too as a rebadged Azera
    Lexus ES - Much improved over older model, but it doesn't really impact it's segment does it??
    Lexus GS - Pretty phenomenal improvement, and it introduces apps and a performance edge that Lexus has lacked in the midsize department
    Lincoln MKZ - Much more innovation and design credo than it's Ford cousin
    Mazda 6 - Are we talking about the Takeri design or current model??
    Mercedes SL - Lots of innovation here, from interior to exterior. Strong contender.
    Nissan Altima - What??
    Nissan Sentra - the Heck??
    Porsche 911 - Always a strong contender
    Porsche Boxster - Always a strong contender
    Scion FR-S - Phenomenal design and performance. Could win
    Dodge SRT Viper - American muscle in a sexy package. It's a perfectly grilled burger in a delicious ciabatta bun dripping with yummy sauce. It's going up against superior gourmet faire though. You know you want the burger, but you also know it's not good for you. Probably won't make the final cut
    Subaru BRZ - Phenomenal design (better than the FR-S in my opinion). Could this be a TWIN WIN??
    Tesla Model S - Phenomenal design with ground breaking tech and world implications. Can an E-car finally win NACOTY?? This one could!
    Toyota Avalon - Milk toast
    Toyota Yaris - vapid econobox with moderate style
    Toyota Prius C - hybrid based on vapid econobox with moderate style and poor performance
     
  6. spatterso911

    spatterso911 MSP#7577 **--** MX#1891

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    Hmmm...Karma not nominated for NACOTY?? why??
     
  7. vfx

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    Have they driven it?
     
  8. Cattledog

    Cattledog Active Member

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    If they have even a thimblefull of guts they'll choose the Model S. So don't count on it!
     
  9. gg_got_a_tesla

    gg_got_a_tesla Model S: VIN P65513, Model 3 Res Holder

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    Two more rounds to go:

    The Selection Process

    First, the short list of dozen or so cars and then the final list of 3.
     
  10. Discoducky

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    We'll find out in Nov/Dec...

     
  11. VolkerP

    VolkerP EU Model S P-37

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    let's see what happens, then :frown:
     
  12. William13

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    The list of jurors is on gg's link. We need to reach out to these people if Tesla doesn't. The guy from Detroit is a lost cause. There are 49 others who vote.

    We should offer our cars to be used.
     
  13. Robert.Boston

    Robert.Boston Model S VIN P01536

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    So Tesla's timing is perfect:
    • Long enough first drives, especially with some key opinion leaders (e.g. WSJ's Dan Neil), to get on the long list.
    • Announced full test drives end of August/early September will tee up the Model S for a series of full reviews in early fall that will move the Model S onto the short list.
    Whether the gearheads of the world can overcome their love of rumbling V8s and vote for the Model S in the end -- well, that's to be seen.
     
  14. agileone

    agileone CDN P#40

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    Right. Tesla must get these in the driver seat. They must get Amped !

    I see about 5 of the jurors that are based in Canada, and should be invited by Tesla to the Toronto Amped event. Add an hour to the event and get them longer access.
    Pretty much the only chance they get to drive this marvel before 2013.
     
  15. ElSupreme

    ElSupreme Model S 03182

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    I agree with a lot of your points. But I disagree here. Sure not a lot spec wise changed. But It will become Ford's 3rd "World Car" where they make the same basic car worldwide. This will have a huge effect on both the European and American market. And putting their already highly praised Fusion and already highly praised Mondeo together will make a very compelling car!

    I will accept your Lincoln MKZ argument/comment, as it is NA car of the year award.
     
  16. PV4EV

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    If ever any car deserved to win a this award, the Model S has to be it.

    Its just so far ahead of any other entry in all areas of innovation possible whilst still being a big family car

    ( ... and not in some other category for space ships or sumthin :biggrin: )
     
  17. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    I've always considered that a "first model year" should get a bump for any "of the year" award. Dunno if the jurors will agree. Nonetheless, how many on the list are first model year besides the Tesla?
     
  18. Todd Burch

    Todd Burch Electron Pilot

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    Consider all of the firsts that Tesla has to deal with at once:

    1. Their first production car.
    2. (Relatively) new car company.
    3. Their first factory/first mass production.
    4. First car with a radically different drivetrain.
    5. First production car with fully digital/touch dashboard and console.

    There should be a handicap awarded to Tesla for that, but even without the Model S is a strong contender.
     
  19. spatterso911

    spatterso911 MSP#7577 **--** MX#1891

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    True, although none of their other world car platforms have won. I factored in the stats too. I think the car is well designed, in fact, I'd recommend it for anyone looking for an ICE or hybrid in that size class. Interior room and trunk size has decreased on the new model compared to the CD3 chassis, however, and the Focus and Fiesta are potentially more relevant world cars (IMHO) that aren't being considered.
     

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