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Model S parts from other automakers' models...

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Fr23shjive, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. Fr23shjive

    Fr23shjive Member

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    I know that the Model S is using many parts from Toyota and Daimler's vehicles. Does anybody have know what parts they took from these larger automakers?

    Thanks.
     
  2. qwk

    qwk Model S P2681

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    The alpha hasn't been officially unveiled yet. LOL

    Only Tesla knows.
     
  3. SByer

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    Maybe it's John Peterson in disguise looking to write yet another head-up-the-*** hit piece?

    (Just kidding, it's Friday).
     
  4. Fr23shjive

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    No, just really interested in Tesla. When I first came here I thought this car was too good to be true. Even now, with everything I know it still seems unthinkable that a small car company can basically out do the large established car companies.

    I've invested in Tesla but even if I hadn't I'd still be interested in the company. Honestly I think their technology will change the auto industry so I think its interesting to discuss. This is a discussion forum right?
     
  5. qwk

    qwk Model S P2681

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    I agree with the above. It's very hard to believe that a startup can get so many things right.

    It has to be very imbarrassing to the big automakers.
     
  6. Todd Burch

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    Probably similar to how NASA felt after SpaceX succeeded with relatively small cost & development time (although NASA did the pioneering in the 1950s/1960s).
     
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    Pointed? They seem like reasonable topics to me and have sparked good discussions. I appreciate them.
     
  8. kvietor

    kvietor Model S S280 VIN 168

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    And how do you know this? No one has even seen the alpha model yet, let alone a final version of the Model S. But I'll let you know if I see any parts stamped with a Toyota or Daimler logo next week at the Detroit Auto Show.
     
  9. Fr23shjive

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    Im pretty sure they would do this because to completely design the car from the ground up would be really expensive. There was a few articles that stated that Tesla would "rummage" through Toyota and Daimler's parts bin for parts they needed. It just makes sense for them to access the larger automakers supply chain in order to cut costs.

    I could've sworn I read an article which outlined which parts Tesla took from the other automakers. Cant find it now, I thought maybe somebody here would've seen the same article.
     
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    kvietor Model S S280 VIN 168

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    Ah, those kind of parts! My mind was on all the electronics and such involved with the motor and batteries. Forgot about all those other parts still needed to make a car. :redface:
     
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    Except we learned from the latest engineering tour videos that the suspension is Tesla design (though I supposed they could share bushings or hardened bolts or 'suppn).







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    Can't pass on the irony of "embarrassing"
     
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    Battery locking mechanism?
     
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    I doubt there is any vacuum system in the car. Coolant pump? A/C compressor?
     
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    Sometimes for regulatory and compliance reasons they end up needing to use legacy technology. Maybe even for cost savings. They might decide they need a vacuum assist (standard off the shelf part) for the power brakes, in which case they need a vacuum from somewhere.

    ICE based cars were used to having engine vacuum available for anything they need so they would sometimes use it for cabin vent controls and such. It would be nice if Tesla managed to find replacements for everything vacuum based, but it is possible they found it cheaper & easier to stick with that "tried and true" technology for now.

    I also wonder if there is a slight chance that they plan to use a hydraulic suspension dampening system... (?) Anyone see any springs or torsion bars in any of the pictures?
     
  17. SteveTheTech

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    I came here with the same thoughts.

    Having access to the Daimler and Toyota suppliers (including Bosch, Denso, and many others) would be one thing but it seems highly unlikely you would go behind a panel and see a Toyota logo, you might see a Bosch control unit or two, but it would be very well hidden I would bet.

    Daimler just signed a significant deal with Nissan recently too. Companies are now going to great lengths to ensure they are green enough to stay in business here.

    To me it seems like Tesla is on the verge of something great. I would strongly consider joining their team if they came to my neck of the woods.
     
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    As far as I know, the Roadster doesn't have any vacuum systems...
     
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    Of course many of the parts in Toyotas etc. are made by outside suppliers, who can and already do make parts for Tesla.
     

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