Thanks Nathan. At least I am not the only one who read it that way.
OK so let me see if I understand your point. The Model S is an awesome car that sucks, in your rather troll-like posts. There is no "argument" to be had when it comes to the Electric Motor and maintenance. You're wrong, deal with it. When calculating costs for the car one must count savings in fuel, if available but according to you Germany is going hog wild for coal while raising the price of electricity, lowering your wages and polluting the hell out of your air. Oh, and you aren't going to buy a Model S because for the aforementioned reasons and you cant afford it... to which you seem upset because Tesla fraudulently claimed the car was affordable while conveniently ignoring that this was a VISION for Tesla which is still under way. The "cheap" MS wasn't selling so it was discontinued. That's called market forces at work, not some grand bait and switch conspiracy.
Probably time to start getting politically active in your town. Who knows? Perhaps if you spent half the time engaging your community for change as you do complaining about Tesla you might actually get somewhere.
Secondly, and Im just curious here, do you spend the rest of your time on Lamborghini Forums bitching about gas guzzlers? I mean maybe I'm off here but what is the point? If you want the cheaper car, hang on till 2017. But coming to a Tesla forum complaining about Tesla's, only to ignore the rational counter's to your mis-information seems a futile and frankly aggravating journey. If the car doesn't work for you for whatever reason, don't buy one. The criticism on this thread has left constructive long ago IMHO
Actually I wondered whether I should even answer your very personal (and quite insulting) post at all. Because your accusations are more than baseless. Plus I don't get what your problem is.
1) Since when did I say the Model S "sucks" - or anything to that end??? I think I made it quite clear in many posts that I think the Model S, especially for the EV aspect, is a great car.
2) The maintenance argument wasn't about the fact that EVs need less of that, I don't contest that. But it was in the light of the cost argument that I made my remark. Fact of the matter is, the Model S requires mandatory yearly service, no car I have ever known or had required that. Anyway, moving on.
3) "Germany is going hog wild for coal while raising the price of electricity, lowering your wages and polluting the hell out of your air"???
As Germany is switching off its nuclear power stations, the big electricity providers are building quite a few new coal power stations (as well as gas) and expanding exisiting ones. That is a fact. If you want to call that "going hog wild", then so be it. The price of electricity is being raised mainly for political reasons, to finance the switch to renewable energy (which will take decades to come) and to make people waste less energy. The fact is so important that it has become one of the big issues in the current election programs, with some parties even demanding free base electricity contingents for people, because they say that people have a right to affordable energy! This is not me whining about the fact (I can pay for our electricity bill without a problem) but a general problem that is developing in this country. Oh and since when did I say anything about lowering wages. What I was trying to say was that for many people they don't rise, at least not as much as inflation does. That is something quite different. And about the air pollution: do you live next to a 40-year old coal power station? If yes then you know what I am talking about. If no, why make such snidey remarks?
4) The "cheap" MS wasn't selling so it was discontinued. ?? Well, it was discountinued before it even hit the general market over here!
5) Getting politically active in my town? Sorry, but you really have no idea of the German political system. Towns have nothing to say in any kind of matter that has any impact on things like transportation, EV benefits or energy, which are all legislated by the national government (which at the moment shows no interest in making EVs an attractive alternative). After that there is the federal states and the counties. To get to that political level where you have any kind of say and impact, you have to be a full time politician. And I already have a fulltime job plus family with two kids. So sorry, but when I come home from work I like to spend as much time with my family as possible, instead of wasting my time in futile attempts to get anywhere in politics. Plus we are active in our neighbourhood community, kindergarten, etc., which I think is far more important.
6) Forums. This is the only forum (car related or otherwise) I am active in at the moment. I used to also be on the Flare.Solareclipse SciFi forum, but in the last few years didn't find the time anymore.
The reason I am active here is because Tesla and their cars fascinate me. But fascination with something doesn't mean you have to be blind to the shortcomings, nor does it mean that critizicing something specific about the Model S can't go hand in hand with liking the rest of the car.
And finally, if you think my posts are "troll-like", perhaps because there sometimes are spelling or grammar mistakes, then I challenge you to converse with me in German, instead of me trying my best to make myself understood in your (to me foreign) language!
