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I've replied to a few of this person's rants in other threads. According to him, he doesn't like the Tesla because it doesn't have all the blings of the other Euro high end cars - 360 pano camera, heads up display, night vision, blah blah. He absolutely doesn't care a nit for the fact that the car uses no gasoline, can be charged in your garage, and is a revolutionary extended range EV. None of that matters to him, apparently, and the Model S is not the car for him because it's not as luxurious inside as a similarly priced BMW, Mercedes, or [insert car maker here]. Yet he keeps coming back here and wasting his and everyone else's time by posting about a vehicle in which he supposedly has no interest.
It sounds to me like he secretly loves this car, but his wife has his balls in a vice and he probably can't even wipe his butt without his hardy Eastern European wife beating him over it.
Let's leave personal insults out of this, ok. (And my wife isn't Eastern European anyway)
I am amazed that you accuse me of ranting or always complaining about the Model S, while all the time I thought I was just making observations, both positive and negative, about both the Model S and the competition. And for sure I haven't been complaining in most of my posts.
Sometimes I was answering to other posters, sometimes I was seconding their opinions, sometimes I was critizising certain aspects, sometimes I was very positive about the Model S.
You are wrong when you paint the black and white picture that I don't like the Model S because of it's lack of features. By the way I NEVER said I didn't like the car. Quote one of my other posts if I'm wrong.
You are right about one thing though. I loved this car from the beginning (and in no way secretly). I have already said so in another post, but this must have slipped by all of those who think I just want to bash Tesla or the Model S.
So to restate, I have loved this car from day one. To give you a picture, I have had the photos of the prototype on my desktop here at work for years, colleagues have laughed at me when they asked about what that car was and I explained to them what it could accomplish. I defended Tesla for years, I advertised the car at every opportunity, I stated firmly that this would be my next car. No one believed me or believed the Model S could be what Tesla (or I) said it would be. I have always been fascinated by electric vehicles and I am positive my next car will be a BEV. I have driven the Zoe, I have a Model S test drive in two weeks time.
So why you ask, why do I dare to criticise the car? Well, I think I am entitled to voice criticisms about any car, and I do so all the time. I never said the German cars were perfect, no car is. Many cars (not just German ones) have more features than the Model S, many have more refinement in the interior or fit and finish department, but that is not the main point imho.
The main point why the Model S isn't the car for me any more is simply an economy equation. I based my budget for my next car on the formula "current car +25% max", because my current cost 50K Euro, and between 60K and 70K Euro is the maximum I can justify not only to my wife but also to myself. After all, a car is just a car. The Model S (40) would have been the car for me. The original advertisement by Tesla was "premium BEV for under 50K Dollars". Granted, one has to take into account shipping, taxes, etc., but realistically, a 40KWh Model S could have been available for about 60K Euro. Of course we know the way things went.
So yes, the Model S isn't the car for me anymore. But that doesn't mean that Tesla isn't the carmaker that is interesting for me anymore.
I have said several times that my hopes are now set on Gen III, and that is a true statement, not just sayso.
That said, why can't/shouldn't I take part in current discussions about the Model S, just because I won't buy one? I might buy a Tesla in a few years, so as a possible future owner, I think I have every right to take part actively here. If I have to make positive remarks, I will do so, if I think certain aspects deserve criticism, I will criticise.
On the other hand, if everyone here thinks my contributions are worthless (or even all negative - which I'd like to think they aren't), then I will keep my mouth shut from now on, and just read the threads/posts until Gen III is around. I neither wish to waste your nor my time, but as I said, I saw my posts up to now as valuable contributions to the discussions on this forum, which I think is a very good one by the way, especially because the mix of opinions here is so diverse and the discussion culture so largely unbiased.
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I didn't look back on the posts, but my impression is that his "perhaps overzealous" critique is something of an opportunity for Tesla. If you can make this kind of critic happy, then "it's done, Tesla owns the automotive industry".
Completely agree. I will be very happy the day I will have become that person.